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Krantz86:
i don't think there are stupid questions..

btw strangely enought i just managed to tame a FB...
it was a evil pet type modded in the game, a bronze juggernaut with a twisted horn..
it never happened i  the previous version, the only issue os that trainers keep trying to train it (about once every year), since it is strong i chained it to the main gate

slink:

--- Quote from: WCG on May 30, 2012, 09:00:59 am ---
--- Quote from: khearn on May 29, 2012, 01:27:42 pm ---question 1: You don't need a kennel any more, just a training zone. Go to z->Animals and select the animal to train. Hit t and select the trainer (or pick any trainer, which is what I usually do) and hit enter. Then hit w or h to have that animal trained as a war or hunting animal. Wait for a dwarf to get around to it.

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Just to be clear, the animal has to be in the training zone. The trainer won't take the animal there (that's been my experience, anyway). For dogs, just make the training zone an animal pasture, too, and pasture the dogs in it.


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That hasn't been true in my experience, with war training of tame animals.  For example, I now have three war grizzly bears in my fortress.  My training zone has no pasture associated with it and my grizzly bears have never been pastured.

weenog:

--- Quote from: Krantz86 on May 30, 2012, 09:29:14 am ---i don't think there are stupid questions..

btw strangely enought i just managed to tame a FB...
it was a evil pet type modded in the game, a bronze juggernaut with a twisted horn..
it never happened i  the previous version, the only issue os that trainers keep trying to train it (about once every year), since it is strong i chained it to the main gate

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???

...What kind of food did they bring it?

crazysheep:

--- Quote from: WCG on May 30, 2012, 09:00:59 am ---
--- Quote from: khearn on May 29, 2012, 01:27:42 pm ---question 1: You don't need a kennel any more, just a training zone. Go to z->Animals and select the animal to train. Hit t and select the trainer (or pick any trainer, which is what I usually do) and hit enter. Then hit w or h to have that animal trained as a war or hunting animal. Wait for a dwarf to get around to it.

--- End quote ---

Just to be clear, the animal has to be in the training zone. The trainer won't take the animal there (that's been my experience, anyway). For dogs, just make the training zone an animal pasture, too, and pasture the dogs in it.

For wild animals you want to tame, you can place a training zone over your animal stockpile. But for dangerous animals which might not be easy to tame (my tame alligator just went wild again), I'd build a small, separate room with a door, construct that particular cage there, and make the whole room a training zone/pasture.

Once the animal is tame, you can pasture it there. Leaving the door closed to animals will keep it from escaping if it turns wild again (at least, until you build cage traps outside the door to catch it).

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In my somewhat limited experience of training captured wild animals: you don't even need to set up a training zone. Use the z-screen to select trainers for wild animals in the Animals tab. Animal trainers will automatically go to the cage with the wild animal in it and train it.

weenog:

--- Quote from: crazysheep on May 30, 2012, 09:32:52 am ---
--- Quote from: WCG on May 30, 2012, 09:00:59 am ---
--- Quote from: khearn on May 29, 2012, 01:27:42 pm ---question 1: You don't need a kennel any more, just a training zone. Go to z->Animals and select the animal to train. Hit t and select the trainer (or pick any trainer, which is what I usually do) and hit enter. Then hit w or h to have that animal trained as a war or hunting animal. Wait for a dwarf to get around to it.

--- End quote ---

Just to be clear, the animal has to be in the training zone. The trainer won't take the animal there (that's been my experience, anyway). For dogs, just make the training zone an animal pasture, too, and pasture the dogs in it.

For wild animals you want to tame, you can place a training zone over your animal stockpile. But for dangerous animals which might not be easy to tame (my tame alligator just went wild again), I'd build a small, separate room with a door, construct that particular cage there, and make the whole room a training zone/pasture.

Once the animal is tame, you can pasture it there. Leaving the door closed to animals will keep it from escaping if it turns wild again (at least, until you build cage traps outside the door to catch it).

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In my somewhat limited experience of training captured wild animals: you don't even need to set up a training zone. Use the z-screen to select trainers for wild animals in the Animals tab. Animal trainers will automatically go to the cage with the wild animal in it and train it.

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That will get you the initial raise from Wild to some level of trained, but to improve it and to keep it from falling back to Wild, they need to come out of the cage and be trained normally.

Course, it might not be a bad idea to let them keep reverting to Wild and keep re-training them, if one wants to improve their familiarity with an animal type.  Need to try that sometime.

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