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Are you gonna get Pokemon Sword or Pokemon Shield?

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Author Topic: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it  (Read 386485 times)

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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6705 on: October 03, 2019, 03:02:44 pm »

And then they shut down the people who do attempt to do more with it,


as for the healing thing, it would be interesting but would rather impact pokemon solo challenge runs, which are something I quite enjoy watching

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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6706 on: October 03, 2019, 03:09:39 pm »

On that point, I'll take the opportunity to plug the Siralim series as pokemon battle mechanics done right (in my opinion).

All health and mana recover after every battle (including raising dead monsters), but those resources matter a lot within each fight. Every monster has a unique trait that (often) is really something defining instead of a little nudge here or there. Leveling up a new monster isn't that rough. Easy to streamline grind when you want to grind.

Just, uh, don't look to that series for much outside the battle mechanics. Still, would be nice for the pokemon team to take a look at Siralim for some ideas.
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6707 on: October 03, 2019, 11:05:52 pm »

I mean, if I were doing it, I'd remove levels entirely, and make all pokemon statistically identical (or atleast very similar) so that battling was entirely a strategic affair, of taking into account each pokemon's abilities, types, strengths, weaknesses, and the terrain involved; so that you'd have a good reason to actually be using every pokemon you can, rather than just picking 6 you like and steamrolling the game on statistical strength alone.

That's a helluva change though.
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6708 on: October 04, 2019, 11:41:32 am »

It really does feel like Pokemon is several games competing with each other.  There's the traditional RPG aspect of just grinding until you can stomp anyone with anything, the collection aspect and the strategic aspect.  They all feed off of each other in ways, but of the lot it really does feel like the grinding levels part is the most dispensable.  In a lot of ways, it's just wasting time, and I wouldn't be surprised if mainstream games did drop it eventually.

Actually, do they do that now for PvP battles?  I could have sworn I read somewhere that it automatically sets all pokemon to the same level to remove that aspect, but things like IVs presumably are still different.
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6709 on: October 04, 2019, 10:38:49 pm »

If I recall correctly pvp battles have a level cap (usually level 50) if your poke is below that level, they keep their level,(allowing for setups like lv1 FEAR rattata) if above they are set to level 50 (keeping all their IVs EVs and learned moves, even if said move is learned after 50).  There are some non standard rulesets that set everything to 50 or everything to 100 (i think theres also a ruleset that does not change level) but those are the rules for the standard system matchmaking format.

Only other notable rule is that the ranked modes usually ban legendary pokemon from being on a team, and prevent duplicates of the same hold item or the same species of pokemon.  I think casual has the no dupes rule as well.

So yea in summary
Casual matchmaking: Lv 50 or less, no dupes, anything else goes
Ranked Matchmaking: Lv 50 or less, no dupes, box cover legendaries banned, some minor legendaries permitted seemingly case by case.

Smogon: half a dozen rulesets, generally banning instant kill moves, evasion buffs, various overpowered non legendary pokemon, and some movesets.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2019, 10:56:34 pm by Greiger »
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6710 on: October 05, 2019, 01:18:56 am »

... so that you'd have a good reason to actually be using every pokemon you can, rather than just picking 6 you like and steamrolling the game on statistical strength alone.

Problem with that is that I like just using the pokemon I like, rather than having to use the "good" ones.
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6711 on: October 05, 2019, 06:16:09 am »

A bit off topic:

Was just reminded of Nuzlockes - the way I most enjoyed playing Pokemon. I stopped whenever the experience system changed (made grinding insufferable) so around Black and White, I think.

Is there a game I could Nuzlocke that I haven't finished already? I did all the GBA ones and SoulSilver.
Also would be open to non-Pokemon similar games.
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6712 on: October 05, 2019, 08:22:37 am »

There's Crystal Clear, of course.  It's different from other Nuzlockes since you can grind gyms for quick money and XP, but they scale up based on badges (up to 16 since it's based on Crystal).  You can also choose any starter and its IVs if you choose to do so, or pick from an extended list.

Well Crystal Clear adds a lot of features to get into, largely convenience and UI.  I did a Nuzlocke though (up to Elite 4 anyway) and it wasn't too rough, after the initial hurdles, but I still lost some strong pokemon like Tyranitar due to the power of later gyms.  Getting all 16 gyms isn't necessary, they outlevel the Elite Four after a point, but it might be a good idea because the Elite Four have tricky setups.
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6713 on: October 16, 2019, 03:44:46 pm »

Well now, Gigantamax mechanic just Meme'd up Meowth, just when you think you've seen it all, the...
I'mma not finish that statement!

Anyways I realize I'm taking quite a shot in the dark here, but do any of you have a spare Chimchar/Monferno/Infernape with Iron Fist Ability?
I need one to breed thus I don't really care about stats, gender or even nature, I can breed-doctor those but I need that Hidden Ability.
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6714 on: November 11, 2019, 10:56:16 am »

SS is almost here!

https://wildareasearch.pokemon.co.jp/ja/
A web thing where you can explore some of the 'Wild Area' just appeared. The Engrish is abysmal, but still kinda interesting to explore.
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6715 on: November 11, 2019, 12:09:48 pm »

I almost exclusively play pokemon on showdown, havent touched the games since x/y

At least when I played the meta was pretty wide, there were a few standouts but you could play pretty much anything.  I got pretty far in the rankings with a slaking, widely considered the worst pokemon in the game.

The tier system also means you can pick a lower meta that bans the more popular pokemon, though lower levels tend to be less balanced.  Its tempting to drop down to RU or NU so you can play with a wider set, but more than the primary OU the lower ranks are dominated by the has-beens and almost-weres, like moltres who is only in lower ranks because there's pokemon that do the same job but better

Im mad because slaking isnt in s/s
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6716 on: November 11, 2019, 01:53:42 pm »

Calling it now, there's gonna be a category in Showdown for just the Pokemon missing from S/S.
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6717 on: November 11, 2019, 06:52:24 pm »

IIRC the staff already have plans for it

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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6718 on: November 11, 2019, 07:23:22 pm »

Im mad because slaking isnt in s/s

Slaking is loafing around!
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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Our boy did it
« Reply #6719 on: November 11, 2019, 08:42:22 pm »

I've got no idea what slaking is like in the game it was introduced in, but it has one of the stupid highest CP in Pokemon Go.  Of course, its fast attack does literally nothing and it can't be taught another move, so maybe it really does suck.
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