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Radtse

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"Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« on: December 29, 2007, 08:17:00 pm »
I'm trying to make or find or compile or something a list of how all skills behave with fey moods. I mainly want to know which skills are completely safe from fey moods, so that I can have my dwarves get to dabbling in a desired fey skill and no others. There is some discussion on the strange mood wiki regarding skills, but I'd like to make a comprehensive list, so that I don't mess up my dwarves.
If anyone knows if this has been done before or has a list or wants to help feel free.
http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Strange_mood  http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Talk:Strange_mood
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Torak

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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 08:22:00 pm »
"Feyable":
Carpenter
Bowyer
Mason
Armorsmith
Metal crafter
Blacksmith
Weaponsmith
Gem setter
Bone carver
Clothier
Glassmaker
Leatherworker
Stone crafter
Wood crafter
Mechanic
Siege Engineer.
Note: I am not sure about some of the others, such as Lye maker, wood burner, thresher, etc.

"Non-Feyable":
Every other skill that is only manual, which does not create an object of value, such as butchering, mining, and swimming.

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Radtse

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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 08:29:00 pm »
Yea, but according to the wiki mining and engraving are considered trade (feyable) skills.
Trade skills = feyable
non-trade = non-feyable

It's crazy.

Here's a list from there:

List of non-trade skills:

   * Brewer
   * Grower
   * Miller

Skills that may be used and gained by dwarves with no trade skills:

   * Wood crafter
   * Stone crafter

Skills that use a different skill(See list above), but give correct skill:

   * Miner
   * Engraver
   * Furnace Operator
   * Weaver

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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2007, 08:37:00 pm »
I got a legendary tanner once. Made a leather something-or-other at the craftsdwarf's workshop.
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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2007, 08:40:00 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Torak:
<STRONG>"Non-Feyable":
Every other skill that is only manual, which does not create an object of value, such as butchering, mining, and swimming.</STRONG>

Not entirely true.

Mining is feyable - dwarf claims mason's workshop and uses stone
Engraving is feyable - again, mason's workshop and stone
Tanning is feyable - dwarf claims leather workshop and uses leather (I think)
Weaving is feyable - dwarf claims clothier's and uses cloth
Gem Cutting is feyable - dwarf claims jeweler's workshop and uses rough gem
Furnace Operation is feyable - dwarf claims metalworks (not sure if ore or bars are required)

Oddly, I have never seen a fey dyer.

Woodcutting, fishing, trapping, ambushing, military skills, and most farming skills are not feyable (and are therefore useful for training dwarven stats).

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Torak

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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2007, 09:57:00 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Gwythur:
<STRONG>
Not entirely true.
</STRONG>

quote:
Originally posted by Torak:
"Non-Feyable":
Every other skill that is only manual, which does not create an object of value, such as butchering, mining, and swimming.


I know, that's why I didnt specify on some of the skills.

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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2007, 10:03:00 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Torak:
"Feyable":
...
Siege Engineer.

Is this true?  I ask because I just had a siege engineer (with no other skills, not even dabbling) go fey and became a bone carver. I was really excited about building masterpiece ballistae.

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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2007, 10:18:00 pm »
My engraver went fey, grabbed a craftsshop, and made a ring.

Grats legendry engraver.

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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2007, 11:09:00 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Shzar:
<STRONG>
Is this true?  I ask because I just had a siege engineer (with no other skills, not even dabbling) go fey and became a bone carver. I was really excited about building masterpiece ballistae.</STRONG>

Legendary gaining is mostly random and dependent on the items used to make the artifact.

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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2007, 11:54:00 pm »
I find the highest craft skill that the dwarf has is usually the one that gets the boost, if it's a peasant that has only ever harvested plants but at one time made a door, bam, suddenly a mason
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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2007, 02:31:00 pm »
I had a thresher who went fey. I'm not entirely sure what a thresher does.
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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2007, 02:57:00 pm »
Threshers process plants.
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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2007, 03:03:00 pm »
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Re: "Feyable" and non "feyable" skills
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2007, 06:27:00 pm »
Furnace Operator is no longer (as of the 3d versions, I believe) feyable.

It *was*, in the 2D version.

I have tested and verified in both cases (in the case of the former, by having a dwarf mood whose highest skill - by a large margin - was Furnace Operating.  However, he mooded to his dabbling Weaponsmith in preference).

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