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Author Topic: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]  (Read 673810 times)

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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2640 on: September 18, 2016, 05:10:07 pm »

Kant is not clear. I refuse to accept it. Lately I've been going over his political writings, which are clearer than others, but he still often clouds what he means almost deliberately.
I propose we settle this question like men of honour: With a Kant-off to the second blood, at dawn tomorrow. The choice of passages is, of course, up to you, but I guarantee I shall be able to show that he wastes neither his breath nor his reader's time.

Awwhh, this means I'm gonna have to look through his stuff again, doesn't it? I daren't use his political writings, as (as previously mentioned) they are less obscure than the rest...but they're the only ones I have at hand. One second, I'm going to go visit the gunsmith and see if he has any new dueling guns in.

His Critique of Pure Reason is online, it seems, so I went to a random page and copied the first paragraph that didn't look like it relied too heavily on surrounding paragraphs.
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The proposition "I think," or "I exist thinking," is an empirical proposition.
But such a proposition is grounded on empirical intuition, consequently
also on the object thought, as an appearance; and thus it
seems as if, according to our theory, the whole, even in thinking, is
completely transformed into appearance, and in such a way our consciousness
itself, as mere illusion, would in fact come down to nothing.o
Thinking, taken in itself,b is merely the logical function and hence
the sheer spontaneity of combining the manifold of a merely possible
intuition; and in no way does it present the subject of consciousness as
B 429 appearance, merely because it takes no account at all of the kind of intuition,
whether it is sensible or intellectual. In this way I represent myself
to myself neither as I am nor as I appear to myself, but rather I think
myself only as I do every objectd in general from whose kind of intuition
I abstract. If here I represent myself as subject of a thought or even as
ground of thinking, then these ways of representing do not signify the
categories of substance or cause, for these categories are those functions
of thinking (of judging) applied to our sensible intuition, which would
obviously be demanded if I wanted to cognize myself. But now I want
to become conscious of myself only as thinking; I put to one side how
my proper self is given in intuition, and then it could be a mere appearance
that I think, but not insofar as I think; in the consciousness of
myself in mere thinking I am the being itself, about which, however,
nothing yet is thereby given to me for thinking.

Also, I do find it interesting how Schopenhauer went for his throat:
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“Because of his style which was obscure, Kant was properly understood by exceedingly few. And it is as if all the philosophical writers, who since Kant had had some success, had devoted themselves to writing still more unintelligibly than Kant.
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2641 on: September 19, 2016, 06:23:36 am »

Yyyeah, if you need to write in such a way that 'the language that is necessary for the degree of precision' is like this, you've become self-defeating. This may perhaps be precise, but it's so bad at communicating that it winds up being needlessly confusing again.
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2642 on: September 19, 2016, 11:37:14 am »

Ok here is a question...

A friend wants me to come over even though I haven't slept... So chances are the only thing I'd be able to do at their house is sleep and be barely awake, barely talk, and be mildly grumpy if anything forces me to be active.

Why is it appealing for me to be there even like this? What can you do with a sleepy person?
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2643 on: September 19, 2016, 11:52:08 am »

What can you do with a sleepy person?
If you have to ask...
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2644 on: September 19, 2016, 12:42:44 pm »

A whole bunch of lumps of ice and rock, orbiting Saturn at various speeds.
That said, the rings are so huge they'd "reform" as they neared the "horizon". Which probably looks pretty damn cool.
Are there any good pictures of this?
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2645 on: September 19, 2016, 01:49:23 pm »

Ok here is a question...

A friend wants me to come over even though I haven't slept... So chances are the only thing I'd be able to do at their house is sleep and be barely awake, barely talk, and be mildly grumpy if anything forces me to be active.

Why is it appealing for me to be there even like this? What can you do with a sleepy person?

You can paint them in the colours of british flag, when they fall asleep.
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2646 on: September 19, 2016, 01:52:43 pm »

You can paint them in the colours of british flag, when they fall asleep.
Unfortunately, that tends to lead to the sleeper colonising you once he wakes. Best not to risk it.
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2647 on: September 19, 2016, 05:19:51 pm »

You can paint them in the colours of british flag, when they fall asleep.
Unfortunately, that tends to lead to the sleeper colonising you once he wakes. Best not to risk it.

I think I need to improve my reading comprehension because at first I thought you were implying that the nebulous Spirit of Britain inhabits anyone in Union Jack colors if it can catch them sleeping.
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2648 on: September 20, 2016, 02:34:19 am »

Weren't Dwarves a force of good in Norse mythology? I know they are kind of neutral all things considered but still...

Though I think the Elves were "not good"? Dang Nefleheim I never understand you.
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2649 on: September 20, 2016, 03:01:15 am »

I don't think I'd have called the Dwarves good...they made things and made deals. I suppose maybe like shifty merchants?
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2650 on: September 20, 2016, 07:05:02 am »

Elves in mythology were more like pixies and red caps though weren't they? Tricksters who'd steal your cattle if you didn't give them food and such. I think dwarves were kind of good because they tended to make stuff for the norse gods. Bronze boars and what not.
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2651 on: September 20, 2016, 07:06:09 am »

In the original mythology elves would steal human children and replace them with their own. This was apparently used as an explanation for physical or mental abnormality.
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2652 on: September 20, 2016, 07:09:52 am »

Elves in mythology were more like pixies and red caps though weren't they? Tricksters who'd steal your cattle if you didn't give them food and such. I think dwarves were kind of good because they tended to make stuff for the norse gods. Bronze boars and what not.

Elves are a confusing race in Norse mythology by what research I have done. They are demigods who boarder on being gods themselves.

They can cause illness but can also cure it (and will do it for food)... You can become a elf in death... and half-elves have magic powers.

In the original mythology elves would steal human children and replace them with their own. This was apparently used as an explanation for physical or mental abnormality.

Aren't those specifically the Germanic Changelings?
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2653 on: September 20, 2016, 08:36:49 am »

The norse dwarves were... not exactly good. More neutral than anything. Also they were sorta' not dwarves. The svarts are considered synonymous with dwarves (and called that, as well, with a different word) but that particular name means dark elf. Norse dwarves were a type of elf, basically.

They were also willing to trade their services for the chance for the chance to ride a train on a goddess. Which they did. For several days. Freya really wanted that necklace.
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Re: The small random questions thread [I spoiled my pants]
« Reply #2654 on: September 20, 2016, 08:38:01 am »

They also made a Robot Pig!
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