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Re: Additional Mechanics/Traps Wishlist
« Reply #450 on: July 25, 2011, 12:45:16 am »

I'm not too fond of the idea of dwarven steampower. Archimedes mirror sounds way too undwarven as well. They don't like the sun, doubt they'd try to use it for anything.


You may not want to use it, but it would be nice to have the possibility to use it ^^
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Re: Additional Mechanics/Traps Wishlist
« Reply #451 on: July 25, 2011, 03:55:35 am »

steam power was invented by the ancient greeks.

they just never thought of using it for anything other than a play thing.


anyways:

Pistons: For movement of fortress sections or if your smart enought inteligent fluid traps.
Turning mechanisms: To turn a peice on the x y or z axis, could be used to create realy impossibly large drawbridges that take up more than 1 z level.

selective attatchement: Constructions can be built to not be attatched to certain parts, yet still act as a support for anything above it. ie: attatched above, but not below, so it supports whats above, and can be moved via pistons without having to go down and dig out a block every time. could be signified most practicaly in the K screen, with (U)(D)(N)(E)(W)(S) and crossed out for those its not attatched to, so: (U) - (D)(N)(E)(W)(S)
done only on constructions, unless toady would implament lifts or such. this means itll only start taking up more memory by choice and not by extra calculations from embark. letting a player totaly ignore the feature. options when building to say attatched to (D) etc.

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Re: Additional Mechanics/Traps Wishlist
« Reply #452 on: July 25, 2011, 05:40:48 am »

Convection should make a pretty efferctive ventilation system, all you need is a big chimney with hot at the bottom and it will suck fresh air in from everywhere to feed it...
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« Reply #453 on: July 25, 2011, 11:45:06 am »

This occured to me while trying to link all those damned cages in my sacrificial pit to one lever. Right now, you only have inputs (levers/pplates) and outputs (doors,cages etc.)
Its a long process, you can only assing 10 such jobs at a time, and only one dwarf will do the job at any given time. Micromanagement at its worst.
What I propose is having sort of gearbox that you can both link to a lever/pplate(will still act as a input device) AND output devices that it will transfer the signal to.
So instead of linking 50 cages to one lever, just put 5 gearboxes, link them to one lever, and then assign them with 10 cages in one batch . Job done >5 times faster than usual.
I'm sure one could find some use for it in dwarven logic as well.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2011, 11:48:37 am by Z1000000m »
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Re: Additional Mechanics/Traps Wishlist
« Reply #454 on: July 25, 2011, 12:07:23 pm »

A fuckin' mech suit already!

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Re: Additional Mechanics/Traps Wishlist
« Reply #455 on: July 25, 2011, 12:35:46 pm »

Mech suit, shmech suit.
Give me a giant steam-piston-powered robot with my fortress inside of it.
Then I could have my fortress itself crushing invaders with its fist.
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Re: Additional Mechanics/Traps Wishlist
« Reply #456 on: July 25, 2011, 01:50:36 pm »

Would be even more awesome if creatures scaled with size.
Imagine Your mobile fort battling demons and full sized dragons.
Awesome
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Re: Additional Mechanics/Traps Wishlist
« Reply #457 on: July 25, 2011, 05:05:44 pm »

Would be even more awesome if creatures scaled with size.
Imagine Your mobile fort battling demons and full sized dragons.
Awesome
Well, you know how it goes.  The Big Bad (but not yet BIIIIIIG! Bad) with the power to attain monstrous size never actually does that right from the off, but wait until they've got a chance to encounter the good guys' huge Giant Mecha Thing (or, vice versa, the GGs only assemble their GMT when the lazy BB goes all humongous after being fed up being ass-whipped by the GGs on a more human scale...).

There's doubtless good sound reasons for that.  (Like the apparent fact that the Fiery Phoenix can only be used once per mission, but many times is never even used at all, even when it would have been jolly useful!  But now I'm starting to mix up my TV shows...)  Anyone know what the TVTropes page is called that deals with that?  I could do with wasting several more days of my life. :)
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« Reply #458 on: July 19, 2012, 04:04:29 pm »

Ok.  Believe me this is more than worthy of a necro.  EVERYONE WATCH THIS, especially part 2 with the crayfish thing, the tank, and the siege-bell!  And part 3 with the diving suit!!!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh5aey_ngc-medieval-fight-book-part-1-3_shortfilms#rel-page-1

Some parts of this detail some WICKED AWESOME siege weapons, traps, mechanisms and the like, that even if they didn't exist IRL and were just plans, could have likely been built with the technologies at the time (this documentary applies to late 14th to mid 15th centuries... much of which is within the tech time-frame of DF).  Yes, some involve gunpowder, but some don't need it necessarily...

Also, there are some interesting things in this that could inspire some other suggestions, like those dealing with justice and stuff... 
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 04:21:12 pm by Andeerz »
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« Reply #459 on: July 24, 2012, 02:29:34 am »

this thread is awesome.
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Re: Additional Mechanics/Traps Wishlist
« Reply #460 on: July 25, 2012, 06:15:13 pm »

Slides! Would be very fun to shove goblins down and an easy way to move dwarfs down 200 z levels. (although this is somewhat similar to minecarts I think this has Merritt being that the minecarts are so buggy and I can't figure them out.)
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« Reply #461 on: July 25, 2012, 08:07:00 pm »

But we already have a way to quickly move goblins and dwarves down 200Z. It is called a 200 storey hole...
If you genuinely had a 200 storey slide then you would need to be quite careful with the gradients or else it would either be no faster than a flight of stairs or would present its users with a catastrophic amount of deceleration at the far end...
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Re: Additional Mechanics/Traps Wishlist
« Reply #462 on: July 27, 2012, 08:08:06 am »

it would either be no faster than a flight of stairs or would present its users with a catastrophic amount of deceleration at the far end...
Exactly, the right incline or slope would be hard to perfect. The difference between this and holes is that it can move laterally as well as vertically and give a larger chance of living.
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