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Author Topic: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say  (Read 692560 times)

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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5865 on: August 16, 2013, 02:17:40 pm »

Being ugly makes you oppressed. Jews are more privileged than anyone else. Passing trans people count as privileged. The "social autist" label gives /v/ as an example. The list goes on - there's at least one obvious joke in pretty much every single section.

They're just trying to work as many issues as possible into the chart.  Jews having it better is an actual thing that people believe.  What everyone else said about the passing trans people reducing the minuses for being trans.  And as for the jokes, making jokes /= trolling.  See every documentary ever that has any funny parts, and a whole lot of satire.  Also, you seem to be assuming that whoever made this chart is both smart and thought things through, which is a poor assumption on the internet.  Particularly in favor of the "they didn't think this through" argument, the blind v paralyzed v retarded... oddness... isn't funny and doesn't make fun of anyone in particular, yet is obviously unrealistic.  Also, the gaps in income ranges.  How would someone who put in enough thought to make a rather subtle parody (subtle because there's nothing explicitly saying "this is parody" or explicitly making fun of SJW or whoever) miss such an obvious problem?  Unless there's something funny there that I'm missing.

Finally, click on the link to Poe's Law within this very thread, and then stop insulting people's reading comprehension levels.

I'm going to stay away from the SJW conversation because, as I said before, I don't know the second thing about them.  Except that for some reason they kept coming up in the Tropes against Women thread, but I'm also staying away from that because it ate too much of my time, so whatever.  I just thought that chart was entertaining.  I think I made that clear in my first post.  Oh, and I have read a few posts abusing the term "privilege" on a very brief foray into Tumblr, so that part seemed fair.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5866 on: August 16, 2013, 02:24:47 pm »

We need more SJWs here. They are arguably the best (and definitely the most hilarious) thing the internet managed to spawn so far.
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« Reply #5867 on: August 16, 2013, 02:26:52 pm »

We need more SJWs here. They are arguably the best (and definitely the most hilarious) thing the internet managed to spawn so far.

it might be hilarious when you watch from a distance (and holy shit is it entertaining) but when you've got them all over a community you actually care about it's like a vermin infestation

unless you don't give a damn, in which case by all means. some people just want to watch the world burn after all.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5868 on: August 16, 2013, 02:30:11 pm »

I mostly mean links and pics of them in action :P. Don't need them here, thankyouverymuch.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5869 on: August 16, 2013, 02:33:27 pm »

It's like a home video show; watching someone get hit in the nuts is funny, but when it happens to you...
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5870 on: August 16, 2013, 02:46:16 pm »

Also I'd really like it if you stopped referring to LGBT people as "gays and traps".
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« Reply #5871 on: August 16, 2013, 02:55:09 pm »

Eh, pass. It'd be like watching those kids on Youtube dump milk cartons on their heads in grocery stores. It looks harmless and stupid, but the attention is all they need, and then someone else tries it and/or think it's a good idea. This SJW thing has already given Tumblr a bad name and that may leak over into actual progressive and constructive projects given improper reinforcement.

Frankly, I'd hate to live in a world where the next big movement is fueled by people who actively employ that chart or direct the undercurrents with that logic. I'd fear we'd only replace our prejudices instead of removing them.

On an aside, I hate home videos like that. Getting kicked in the nuts sucks and I just can't enjoy the schadenfreude. I feel like it encourages the spectating and inflicting of pain on others. Could just be me though, having been bullied through most of school.
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« Reply #5872 on: August 16, 2013, 02:56:23 pm »

I agree with Naxza's last paragraph. So much. These home videos just aren't funny...
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5873 on: August 16, 2013, 04:06:18 pm »

Also I'd really like it if you stopped referring to LGBT people as "gays and traps".
When did this happen? I are confizzle.

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It's an incredibly interesting phenomenon. Also it's likely Tumblr gained its SJW crowd simply by drawing from the same demographic as reddit [see; no neckbeards].

It was a little before I posted the chart.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5874 on: August 16, 2013, 04:18:23 pm »

Specific quote for that:
/SRS/ can also be seen in /LGBT/, where they failed to take root and galvanized the gays and traps there of their hatred for feminism

They're just trying to work as many issues as possible into the chart.  Jews having it better is an actual thing that people believe.  What everyone else said about the passing trans people reducing the minuses for being trans.  And as for the jokes, making jokes /= trolling.  See every documentary ever that has any funny parts, and a whole lot of satire.  Also, you seem to be assuming that whoever made this chart is both smart and thought things through, which is a poor assumption on the internet.  Particularly in favor of the "they didn't think this through" argument, the blind v paralyzed v retarded... oddness... isn't funny and doesn't make fun of anyone in particular, yet is obviously unrealistic.  Also, the gaps in income ranges.  How would someone who put in enough thought to make a rather subtle parody (subtle because there's nothing explicitly saying "this is parody" or explicitly making fun of SJW or whoever) miss such an obvious problem?  Unless there's something funny there that I'm missing.

Finally, click on the link to Poe's Law within this very thread, and then stop insulting people's reading comprehension levels.

I think you're assuming a lot of things about my argument that aren't true. I just said this is a parody.

You assume a lot of thought would need to be put into it - I don't think so. I think someone decided to make fun of the SJWs who think all of reality can be summed up as a labelled checklist of privileges and oppression, then probably spent 20 minutes writing it and posted it to 4chan. I don't think they actually cared enough about it to revise it, hence the errors.

Honestly, I could argue more, but I really don't feel the need to argue my point when the chart speaks for itself. The chart arbitrarily splits Europe into different privilege categories, two of which are labelled "meh" countries and "shit" countries. The religion section has a "Black & Jewish" label. /v/ is given as an example of autism (which really makes me think someone on 4chan made this - of course, 4chan is known as a den of SJWs so I guess that doesn't prove my point). There's a section for doing the privilege check on a Friday/Saturday night, implying that you must be oppressed if you don't have anything better to be doing.

Yes, not everything in this is a joke, like the blind/paralyzed/retarded section. There's a basic framework of pseudo-realistic SJW stuff in there. Note that these are the parts that seem least thought out, like the income ranges. That's because the creator didn't care about those parts. They're not the jokes, and they're not the point of the chart.

And heck, I haven't even mentioned the stuff that shows the author didn't know much about social justice warriors. For instance, asexuality doesn't count as oppression. SJWs are all about asexual oppression. The attractiveness section doesn't mention thin privilege in any way, even though they're all over that. And there are way more sexuality and gender identity labels that would have been jammed into those two sections.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5875 on: August 16, 2013, 04:49:25 pm »

What are SJWs? I keep translating it in my head to "Sexual Jewish Warlocks", but I'm pretty sure that's not it.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5876 on: August 16, 2013, 04:50:14 pm »

Social Justice Warriors.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5877 on: August 16, 2013, 06:19:25 pm »

-snip-

The point I'm making is that just because its stupid and wrong doesn't prevent it from being genuine.  And even if whoever made this is misrepresenting the SJWs, that doesn't mean they aren't one.

Yes, a lot of it could work as parody.  But extreme enough viewpoints have a way of becoming unintentional self-parody, and I just don't think this chart has a strong tell where we can point at it and say "there is absolutely, 100%, no way that someone being sincere would write this."
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5878 on: August 16, 2013, 07:00:34 pm »

Jews are more privileged than anyone else.
In popular imagination in the US, at least(though not necessarily in reality), this is true, but not because they're Jews (as the chart jokingly supposes) so much as because of the ancillary "privileges" associated with Jewish-ness. There are, of course, Jews in Israel (Middle East, -600) but most of the Jews who stumble upon that chart are probably American (+20). Most of these Jews are white (+25), excepting those Ethiopians and Chinese, very few of whom live in the US, and mixed-race (Other, -100) people with Jewish mothers, like Drake. There is a certain degree of truth to the popular notion that American Jews are disproportionately high on the socioeconomic ladder (Affluent, +10, or in a few rare cases Rich, +100). A slightly less accurate stereotype that also has some basis in reality is that Jews are often bankers (+25). If they are religious and good about keeping the Sabbath, they won't be doing it on Saturday night (-15).
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« Reply #5879 on: August 16, 2013, 11:13:05 pm »

Somebody was sharing a link to an article about how my Republican Governor was converting to become a democrat, commenting how they were super happy with this and how he has no business in his party of choice.

The link was satire, I'm pretty sure :S
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