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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5880 on: August 17, 2013, 09:07:30 am »

Reading through the BLOC forums, I had a look at the general chat. Somebody posted this thread. Once you've read the initial post please open the spoiler below and continue.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5881 on: August 17, 2013, 10:15:38 am »

So apparently the RNC voted to bar CNN and NBC from covering their 2016 primary debates because both channels are doing specials about Hillary Clinton. That's right RNC, you show those dirty elitist partisan bastards what's what!  ::)

Link. Other link.


I mean, damn. This is so stupid I'm not even sure if it's worth posting in the politics thread. I'm beyond trusting or caring about either party, but it's shit like this that makes me view the Democrats as the party of greater sanity as well as of lesser evil.
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« Reply #5882 on: August 17, 2013, 12:32:15 pm »

They just wanted to make sure that the networks would be against them in the future, so next time they do something like this their arguments will be valid.
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« Reply #5883 on: August 17, 2013, 12:51:03 pm »

Running a special on a likely future and former presidential candidate and former first lady? My god. The horror.
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« Reply #5884 on: August 17, 2013, 01:01:53 pm »

So apparently the RNC voted to bar CNN and NBC from covering their 2016 primary debates because both channels are doing specials about Hillary Clinton. That's right RNC, you show those dirty elitist partisan bastards what's what!  ::)

Link. Other link.


I mean, damn. This is so stupid I'm not even sure if it's worth posting in the politics thread. I'm beyond trusting or caring about either party, but it's shit like this that makes me view the Democrats as the party of greater sanity as well as of lesser evil.

This is the part where FOX news withers away and burns in it's dirt coffin, for being Republican, right? (before I get "the monologue", no, I don't watch Fox. Nor do I watch the partisan media corporations and/or organizations on the other side of the political spectrum]

In all seriousness, I'm glad some liberals can say that their favored sources have a political slant. Many try to deny it. Kudos.

Interesting to see how many prople still divide people into "Red vs Blue".

Also interesting is the idea that any party could be "of" sanity, or the "common good" (which, funnily, is whatever it is anybody wants it to be)

It looks to me a little like mob mentality.

Where you only feel comfortable about your values, virtues, and motovations (or lack thereof of aforementioned) as long as there is a movement, a revolution, a Glorious Band of Social Warriors (or, depending on your view, Social Warmongers), a politician, or (ironically) a giant media corporation (but dedicated to "the greater good", s'okay) that agrees with you and agrees to make you "feel good" about it beyond doubt.

Hmm... I have a snazzy, new, feel-good, all-inclusive (unless you disagree) new name for it. "Group Individualism". (dunno, somebody probly aka definitely thought of that before me, but oh well)
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5885 on: August 17, 2013, 01:20:57 pm »

Interesting how a lot of really big twits say "interesting" when they mean "stupid", as if obfuscating what they really mean makes them sound smarter.

And by interesting, I mean annoying as fuck.
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« Reply #5886 on: August 17, 2013, 01:25:50 pm »

Interesting how a lot of really big twits say "interesting" when they mean "stupid", as if obfuscating what they really mean makes them sound smarter.

And by interesting, I mean annoying as fuck.

Or, by "interesting", I mean "interesting".

But I can't say I disagree with you. I could always add in 20+ "stupid", if that's the cure for OCD at the moment. For the moment.

Anything in that post you'd like to discuss now?

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« Reply #5887 on: August 17, 2013, 01:35:26 pm »

Interesting how a lot of really big twits say "interesting" when they mean "stupid", as if obfuscating what they really mean makes them sound smarter.

And by interesting, I mean annoying as fuck.

Hahahahahaha guilty as charged <3
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« Reply #5888 on: August 17, 2013, 01:42:16 pm »

Isn't it impossible to have journalism without some sort of bias? "Neutrality" is just a golden mean fallacy and still has a bias (just that it's smack dab between two extremes). Also, trying to be as detached as possible can lead to some wacky crap; I would not at all be surprised to hear the BBC say something along the lines of "so and so committed genocide, which according to some is a horrible act."
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« Reply #5889 on: August 17, 2013, 01:51:16 pm »

Isn't it impossible to have journalism without some sort of bias? "Neutrality" is just a golden mean fallacy and still has a bias (just that it's smack dab between two extremes). Also, trying to be as detached as possible can lead to some wacky crap; I would not at all be surprised to hear the BBC say something along the lines of "so and so committed genocide, which according to some is a horrible act."
It's not for no reason though. They get accused of having a liberal bias by some organisation at least once a year.
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« Reply #5890 on: August 17, 2013, 01:58:07 pm »

Isn't it impossible to have journalism without some sort of bias? "Neutrality" is just a golden mean fallacy and still has a bias (just that it's smack dab between two extremes). Also, trying to be as detached as possible can lead to some wacky crap; I would not at all be surprised to hear the BBC say something along the lines of "so and so committed genocide, which according to some is a horrible act."

Anyone will say genocide is evil or call whatever they need to genocide until someone who they support does it themselves or endorses it.

As to neutrality, yes, amazingly it's possible to not put a pretty spin on everything and anything, for the idea that "everything is politics", and anything, absolutely anything can be used for an agenda. Every issue is a political issue, and it seems that the rule is that every issue MUST be turned into a political one, so why not use emotions, primarily hate, and envy, to drum up contention?

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« Reply #5891 on: August 17, 2013, 02:00:26 pm »

Isn't it impossible to have journalism without some sort of bias? "Neutrality" is just a golden mean fallacy and still has a bias (just that it's smack dab between two extremes). Also, trying to be as detached as possible can lead to some wacky crap; I would not at all be surprised to hear the BBC say something along the lines of "so and so committed genocide, which according to some is a horrible act."
It's not for no reason though. They get accused of having a liberal bias by some organisation at least once a year.

And you're saying they don't? Strange, people are usually proud about it.

Because "at least they aren't Republicans".
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5892 on: August 17, 2013, 02:07:27 pm »

Anything in that post you'd like to discuss now?
S'kinda' notable how you make the leap from "greater sanity" and "lesser evil" to "of sanity" and "greater good". The former doesn't necessarily imply the latter, especially when you're dealing with the american political scene. I haven't seen many people on any point of the political spectrum that has functioning eyes that thinks either party is actually sane or a net good. Just more or less worse than the other on particular issues. Seems to be a fairly steady constant among anyone who doesn't have the partisan prod lodged firmly in their cloaca, be they of a conservative or liberal slant.

But nah, the general hope that I've seen is that pretty much all of those entertainment news bastards choke on something and die. Fox is slightly (slightly) more egregious about their sorts bullshit, so there might be a bit more hope that it dies first (or perhaps just more spectacularly, haha!), but it's fairly standard crap across the spectrum. The larger news sources in the states are just kinda' scummy.
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« Reply #5893 on: August 17, 2013, 02:11:44 pm »

So I'm guessing the media out-of-state is just peachy.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #5894 on: August 17, 2013, 02:15:46 pm »

He didn't say that. Remember how I gave you the advise to stop putting words in peoples mouths? Yeah, do that.
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