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[ZzarkLinux]

but you need to be on an evil biom to have silver colored clothing ... does that not enougth to "balance" ?  Anyway things are not balanced.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SLIVER BARBS

THEY ARE SLIVER BARBS

THEY MAKE BLACK DYE

NOT SILVER

BLACK

D:

Looks like you are losing the battle with silver barbs.
Maybe all those necroseiges at SilentThunders are making you hallucinate...

[Replica]

But seriously guys.

Fucking eyeball bushes, muscle tissue grass and blood rain.
Do you NEED another reason to embark on an evil biome? Like, really?

[Sprin]

I very rarely go to evil bioms but I have a good time when I do so I dont think we need anything more rewarding thab survival.

[hjd_uk]

Fucking eyeball bushes, muscle tissue grass and blood rain.

Its like the DF version of the Contra / Gradius / R-type flesh-worlds.

[Scruffy]

a 500% migrant rate boost.

This must the the most horrifying idea I have heard. Expecially in evil biomes.

"Another wave of 'em! Urist, close the gates! For Armok's sake close the gates!"
Horrible screams of the migrants and the shrieks of those who can no longer run because of dehydration/hunger/lack of sleep and succumb to the undead horde and the remains of those who came before.
Wailing of thrall fishcleaners and
Abandoned halls filled with the moans of the ghosts of migrants who never made it to the gate.

[Sutremaine]

You could build a solid fortress off the two hard-coded waves alone if those were also increased by 500%. Imagine it -- the first year, seven dwarves come, dig in, and are joined within the year by 50 others. Then the doors close. For a few years, the surface is undisturbed save by the dead and those waiting for death, and the scattered goods of murdered wagons slowly returning to the ground. Then, suddenly, the doors are thrown open and 40 dwarves clad in the finest shining metal rush forth and cleanse the surface in a wave of glorious, bloody violence.

[k9wazere]

You could build a solid fortress off the two hard-coded waves alone if those were also increased by 500%. Imagine it -- the first year, seven dwarves come, dig in, and are joined within the year by 50 others. Then the doors close. For a few years, the surface is undisturbed save by the dead and those waiting for death, and the scattered goods of murdered wagons slowly returning to the ground. Then, suddenly, the doors are thrown open and 40 dwarves clad in the finest shining metal rush forth and cleanse the surface in a wave of glorious, bloody violence.

Only one, teensy, tiny flaw in your plan.

The dead will just get up again.

You can only really do two things with undead in evil biomes:
atom smash
push them off the edge of the map

[Loud Whispers]

atom smash
push them off the edge of the map

burn
bury
cage

[k9wazere]

atom smash
push them off the edge of the map

bury
cage

In the case of keeping them on map, but immobilised/trapped, do they affect FPS at all?

[Loud Whispers]

atom smash
push them off the edge of the map

bury
cage

In the case of keeping them on map, but immobilised/trapped, do they affect FPS at all?

If they're in a 1x1 ditch they shouldn't path, which means no, it doesn't affect FPS. Nothing's stopping you from putting them in one cage too however (I've tried - it works) if you feel like you'd much rather not have them on the map at all (as they can contribute to the wild animal cap when not caged).

[k9wazere]

If they're in a 1x1 ditch they shouldn't path, which means no, it doesn't affect FPS. Nothing's stopping you from putting them in one cage too however (I've tried - it works) if you feel like you'd much rather not have them on the map at all (as they can contribute to the wild animal cap when not caged).

I didn't think you could pit or re-cage zombies, as the haulers would freak out?

Are you saying you can put them all in a single cage?

[Loud Whispers]

If they're in a 1x1 ditch they shouldn't path, which means no, it doesn't affect FPS. Nothing's stopping you from putting them in one cage too however (I've tried - it works) if you feel like you'd much rather not have them on the map at all (as they can contribute to the wild animal cap when not caged).

I didn't think you could pit or re-cage zombies, as the haulers would freak out?

Are you saying you can put them all in a single cage?

I put zombie pigs on chains, and they walked on top of them just fine. As in literally walking on top of the zombie pigs.

[PwndJa]

Evil has plenty of advantages. For example, my traps in such regions generally involve a pit of zombies. My training rooms also have such pits.

If the ability to unleash a horde of undead on invaders isn't a plus, I'm not sure we're playing the same game.

[Ruhn]

I'm not good enough to live in an evil biome yet, so I post out of ignorance.

Do caravans still come?
It seems like they would always die right away, so it would seem like the guard:merchant ratio would increase with each failed visit, as well as the time between visits.  If no caravan ever makes it to trade, they stop alltogether and you only see one every 5 years.  If they do make it in, the prices are sky high.

[Sutremaine]

Only one, teensy, tiny flaw in your plan.

The dead will just get up again.

Yeah, it wouldn't work so well in a reanimating biome. But I've got a nice site that doesn't reanimate but is completely covered by thrall clouds. Also, it's a swamp so it rains a bunch and leaves piles of thrall dust all over the site. At least there's a cave to hide in, if you can clear the trolls out first.