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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2012, 04:06:15 pm »

Loud Whispers , you're so brave , growing a child in DF is hard !

i have a floodgate to my corpse/refuse stockpile to block it at any time (with the poor dwarf hauler) .

i am trying to spare my good dwarves and send children instead (only the ones above 12 years ) if they survive , they get skills , if they die , there is 1 less food and booze leech .
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2012, 05:53:09 pm »

I try to build a fortress where all dwarves are safe, happy, have decently good living conditions (for living underground in what is essentially an elaborate bunker), and are dedicated to the creation of fine artwork. Artificial artifacts are also produced in large numbers. These are items that have such lengthy histories behind them and have such history on them (literally due to decorations) that they make ordinary artifacts look puny and boring in comparison. The history of dwarven heroes can be read by walking through the armories, with all of their great deeds engraved in metal for the rest of time.

I'm always disturbed when one of my dwarves dies. I really try to avoid it.

The only time I deem a dwarven death to be a "good" death is when the dwarf was doing something heroic, in which case the dwarf's deeds will be enshrined in artwork, and the dwarf will be buried with the honored dead.

My fortresses are filled with warrior-poets.
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2012, 06:56:22 pm »

Sorta like the nords.
My forts have sucky mele dudes but we have archers and seige wepons to defend the alcholics I mean... Ya alcholics...
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2012, 07:19:43 pm »

My ethics on dwarven welfare...
Every dwarf deserves a fairly nifty bedroom that is smoothed, 3x3 with a bed and door and cabinet and coffer and table and chair and if possible, a statue depicting them in (hopefully) a good moment at the least!

Make it to legendhood?  You earn a tomb for if you die, you hard-working child of Armok!

A child or infant?  Expect to be raised, usually to become a smoother, lest ye go into artifact mode, in which case, whatever you become legendary in will be your new profession.

If you have no good professions as a dwarf, expect stone smoothing duty, or smelter duty or something far more useful, even if it means strand extraction duty!

Wind up with a military role?  Expect drafting to the military to train fairly hard to defend dwarfkind in no less than iron attire!

A legendary dining room smoothed out will also be provided, so bring about that plump helmet roast!

A kobold or Goblin or elf or human or dwarf happens to die in the vicinity of the fortress?  Have a slab with your name on it!  (Did it for a kobold, only for a freaking cave crocodile to knock it down, and eat the woodworker's arms off...  freaking croc getting by the jammed trap.)

The fortress should be completely smoothed out, and at the dormitory stairwell, statues built out of the way of the halls.  Also included with the fortress will be a well with a cistern powered either by a river, aquifer, or pumped water.

Am I too kind to my dwarves, given that they sit on top of the wall designation to try and build it and cancel the job because of the fact he's sitting on the wall?
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2012, 07:26:58 pm »

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Yeah, dwarf fortress has been the cause of many a strange, strange story over the years. There's one in particular that we don't mention anymore because it was seriously disgusting and perverted, and that's coming from the entire DF community. You know it's fucked up if even we hurl at the thought of it.
Are you talking about the story with the hammer and the gouging?
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2012, 08:03:49 pm »

The only citizens i've ever killed or had killed are vampires that wouldn't behave.

I try to keep my dwarfs happy and safe. I work to preserve their lives, and those of friendly visitors.

Besides being a nice guy I see a lot of the more vicious practices, like atom smashing migrants and tricking people into killing their pets as sorta meta-gaming, and my dispositions leans a bit in the direction of role play and immersion.

...I am kinda tempted to try dwarven day-care though. Because, while arguably cruel to all beings involved it has a goal that the dwarves would undestand and that they could concievably approve of...lots of real cultures have trained children to be warriors from birth one way or another.
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2012, 08:09:30 pm »

Basically a slight variation of the standard pirate's code. A dwarf does his work, and he gets his fair share of the results. Over-achieving dwarves get a bonus. Accomplished military dwarves and other defenders of the fortress will be given special precedence. However, trators and slackers will be strictly punished, often disposed of or used as disposable labor (e.g. magma breaching miners).
« Last Edit: August 28, 2012, 08:12:12 pm by DrKillPatient »
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2012, 09:06:54 pm »

Does anybody remember a time when you treated your dwarves as if they were more than just pieces of meat?
Yes. Today.

I delight in the suffering of my dwarves not because they mean nothing to me but because I worship them. Every dwarf, every single one, has the potential to be a godking if they bleed and toil enough... facing death itself and making it their woman. I torture my dwarves, sending hundreds to their doom, because they want me to. Because it is better to die young and be cast back upon the wheel of reincarnation to suffer again than to live to old age in mediocrity.

And to be a hero... that is enough to pay for a thousand lifetimes of torment.

A toast to death and godhood.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2012, 09:11:42 pm by Hectonkhyres »
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2012, 09:28:09 pm »

Does anybody remember a time when you treated your dwarves as if they were more than just pieces of meat?
Yes. Today.

I delight in the suffering of my dwarves not because they mean nothing to me but because I worship them. Every dwarf, every single one, has the potential to be a godking if they bleed and toil enough... facing death itself and making it their woman. I torture my dwarves, sending hundreds to their doom, because they want me to. Because it is better to die young and be cast back upon the wheel of reincarnation to suffer again than to live to old age in mediocrity.

And to be a hero... that is enough to pay for a thousand lifetimes of torment.

A toast to death and godhood.


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My ethics on dwarven welfare...
Every dwarf deserves a fairly nifty bedroom that is smoothed, 3x3 with a bed and door and cabinet and coffer and table and chair and if possible, a statue depicting them in (hopefully) a good moment at the least!

Make it to legendhood?  You earn a tomb for if you die, you hard-working child of Armok!

A child or infant?  Expect to be raised, usually to become a smoother, lest ye go into artifact mode, in which case, whatever you become legendary in will be your new profession.

If you have no good professions as a dwarf, expect stone smoothing duty, or smelter duty or something far more useful, even if it means strand extraction duty!

Wind up with a military role?  Expect drafting to the military to train fairly hard to defend dwarfkind in no less than iron attire!

A legendary dining room smoothed out will also be provided, so bring about that plump helmet roast!

A kobold or Goblin or elf or human or dwarf happens to die in the vicinity of the fortress?  Have a slab with your name on it!  (Did it for a kobold, only for a freaking cave crocodile to knock it down, and eat the woodworker's arms off...  freaking croc getting by the jammed trap.)

The fortress should be completely smoothed out, and at the dormitory stairwell, statues built out of the way of the halls.  Also included with the fortress will be a well with a cistern powered either by a river, aquifer, or pumped water.

Am I too kind to my dwarves, given that they sit on top of the wall designation to try and build it and cancel the job because of the fact he's sitting on the wall?

You sirs, are epic. I love how freaking epic this game is.
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2012, 10:56:58 pm »

My ethics are fairly simple. Ensure that everyone has a bed, ensure that the dining room will accommodate at least 200 dwarves (which how i always end up with a legendary dining room), Ensure the commons are large enough, ensure that there are enough coffins for every potential death. I attempt to set up decent medical facility (but i often fail because soup making is real pain in the ass). I also set up a gated entrance because my military ALWAYS sucks.

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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2012, 08:08:02 am »

Always have spare coffins.
Legendarys get tombs.
Children are kept in a well sealed complex next to the puppy drop tube to immunise them.

My forts are extremely traumatic.
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2012, 08:38:16 am »

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Yeah, dwarf fortress has been the cause of many a strange, strange story over the years. There's one in particular that we don't mention anymore because it was seriously disgusting and perverted, and that's coming from the entire DF community. You know it's fucked up if even we hurl at the thought of it.
Are you talking about the story with the hammer and the gouging?
With the children, the modding and the gouging, yeah.
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2012, 10:56:01 am »

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Yeah, dwarf fortress has been the cause of many a strange, strange story over the years. There's one in particular that we don't mention anymore because it was seriously disgusting and perverted, and that's coming from the entire DF community. You know it's fucked up if even we hurl at the thought of it.
Are you talking about the story with the hammer and the gouging?
With the children, the modding and the gouging, yeah.
This sounds simultaneously horrific yet fascinating. But probably best left unstead regardless. Thankyou for preserving my (relative) innocence.
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Re: Your dwarven ethics
« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2012, 01:06:48 pm »

I think this reasonably accurately sums up how most people (including myself) feel about their dwarves.

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« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2012, 01:25:29 pm »

I have no idea where that's from....

But I believe it is the most accurate summary of dwarf fortress I have ever heard. 0_0
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My dreams are not unlike yours - they long for the safety, and break like a glass chandelier.
But there's laughter and oh there is love, just past the edge of our fears.
And there's chaos when push comes to shove, but it's music to my ears.

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