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612DwarfAvenue

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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2012, 08:16:35 pm »

Yeah, what's causing this is the duplicate entry. I don't see why you even needed to duplicate it, just make the changes to the original entry and get rid of the duplicate (might have to re-gen if you want it fixed, though. You could fix the raws for that save as well, but it might not work).
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2012, 08:19:52 pm »

Even a single duplicate object in the raws can cause issues. Or !!issues!!.
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2012, 08:32:17 pm »

Yeah, what's causing this is the duplicate entry. I don't see why you even needed to duplicate it, just make the changes to the original entry and get rid of the duplicate (might have to re-gen if you want it fixed, though. You could fix the raws for that save as well, but it might not work).
Ehh, why would i fix something as amusing as this :P, and I forgot to merge the two as I said before (I'm not exactly experienced with changing the raws and adding the ores was as far as I was willing to go...), and I've made crazier duplicates (as in trying to merge two mods, post apocalypse and masterworks, with far less craziness than this, hell was still slade and wasn't above ground, though some other issues popped up, mostly nerves and references that didn't exist any more). Though this makes me wonder if i swapped the slade and adamantine spots in the raws with everything else the same, if adamantine would be everywhere that slade is currently occupying. And on that note I shall go try that :P
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2012, 08:54:49 pm »

No, you'd need to switch a couple of tags for that.
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2012, 08:59:05 pm »

No, you'd need to switch a couple of tags for that.
Well isn't that what should have happened for slade? (available on embark...), though we will see if it still does crazy things (such as make it available on embark as it did for slade, which still couldn't be dug through by the way). And I will be able to see if its really something else at play (what could make slade appear in the overworld and clay take its place as the stone of hell?). If anything this is just for seeing what other craziness I can cause with just one duplicate :)
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2012, 10:17:05 pm »

I'm talking about if you want predictable results, not duplication.
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2012, 10:20:22 pm »

No, you'd need to switch a couple of tags for that.
Well isn't that what should have happened for slade? (available on embark...), though we will see if it still does crazy things (such as make it available on embark as it did for slade, which still couldn't be dug through by the way). And I will be able to see if its really something else at play (what could make slade appear in the overworld and clay take its place as the stone of hell?). If anything this is just for seeing what other craziness I can cause with just one duplicate :)
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Keep in mmind there are unpredictable results. The next goblin horde could easily be composed of flying boiling leather, and th dragon that shows up may just explode.
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2012, 10:35:54 pm »

This makes me want to duplicate raws so bad. :P
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2012, 10:57:54 pm »

This makes me want to duplicate raws so bad. :P

Agreed. It sounds like dorfy tripping nightmares of Lovecraftian craziness, but in a fun way.
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2012, 10:59:55 pm »

I'm fairly sure that duplicate raws cause Armok to forcibly vomit when he creates a new world, which is why they are so totally messed up.
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2012, 11:12:03 pm »

I'm fairly sure that duplicate raws cause Armok to forcibly vomit when he creates a new world, which is why they are so totally messed up.
Fine, Fine. You guys made me bring out my own personal fucked up raws. I made it one when Trying to make a civ that would complement the DF world, and I came up with Semi-angels with A taste for fighting. I really have to finish that some time...

But anyway, The weird thing was they would always have elven morals and positions. I didn't figure out why this was until later, when I realized I had duplicated a raw.

When I tested it out in adventure mode, There were goblins in the Elevn town. Elves didn't have towns. I deleted it out of frustation, But I kept a single save, and I've decided to embark with it.

So far, I've embarked as elves.
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2012, 11:13:41 pm »

Sounds like another succession game in the works!

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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2012, 11:14:59 pm »

Sounds like another succession game in the works!

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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2012, 11:18:13 pm »

Elved.
Dang it!
But yeah, can I be "Elved"?
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Re: So I went to embark...
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2012, 11:19:52 pm »

Elved.
Dang it!
But yeah, can I be "Elved"?
Uh, sure. I don't know if I want to start a whole fort over this. But If I get enough comments I will. And I'll make it sucession, cause I'm busy As freaking hell. Stupid Specialized High School, sucking my time away.
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