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Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
- 7 (6.5%)
Rick Santorum
- 16 (14.8%)
Michelle Bachmann
- 13 (12%)
Chris Christie
- 23 (21.3%)
Rand Paul
- 49 (45.4%)

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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #180 on: February 14, 2013, 05:22:26 pm »

But we aren't dealing with "A" and "A's opposite, B", we're dealing with "A" "B" C" "D"...
Good thing the word "majority" has nothing to do with that at all.  I don't even get how you can have a "plurality" of murders when it's not like there are political factions spanning different categories of crime.

Well there's a pretty clear difference between "crimes caused by stabbing" and "crimes caused by poverty/the drug war/etc" so far as statistics go. Do you count indirect crimes, like robbing a store for drug money? You almost certainly don't count indirect crime, like when someone's family is wrecked by an arrest/drug war related killing and it leads them down a road that results in murder. It really isn't as simple as "drug war crime" and "non drug war crime"
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #181 on: February 14, 2013, 05:25:08 pm »

You're saying there aren't stabbings caused by the drug war?
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #182 on: February 14, 2013, 09:03:24 pm »

You're saying there aren't stabbings caused by the drug war?

And what about the people stabbed by drugs?

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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #183 on: February 14, 2013, 09:25:05 pm »

And what about the people stabbed by drugs?
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #184 on: February 14, 2013, 09:56:35 pm »

We are sure getting silly in here. Quick, define agnosticism [/not bitter at all]
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #185 on: February 15, 2013, 11:25:33 am »

Posting to wat-... Huh. Maybe I shouldn't, you all are silly folk.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #186 on: February 15, 2013, 02:50:19 pm »

We are sure getting silly in here. Quick, define agnosticism [/not bitter at all]

Not caring.

Hey, silly beats hateful and angry, right?
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #187 on: February 16, 2013, 08:00:30 am »

If i might ask, I've been wondering for a while what exactly happened to the activism of the 60's and 70's. There was clearly so much left to be done, but it just seems to have died off to be fondly remembered now.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #188 on: February 16, 2013, 09:36:12 am »

It triggered a major backlash and the rise of fundamentalism in politics. Without the focus of the Vietnam war, and with many of the symbols of the movement made outright illegal, it lost it's focus and unity and broke apart into factions that no longer had the strength to resist the counter-push.
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« Reply #189 on: February 16, 2013, 09:49:31 am »

Sometimes when I watch documentaries or look at photos of a ghetto in Detroit or L.A. I always think that if people had lived in such conditions with the rights that they have now back in the 1930s, they'd have a much higher chance of becoming politicised and making a difference rather than just wasting away and decaying into gang violence and drug dealing. God damn crack.
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #190 on: February 16, 2013, 11:15:23 am »

can we stop argueing the definition of majority. it is clear that my use of the term majority was not accurate,
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #191 on: February 16, 2013, 04:10:04 pm »

It triggered a major backlash and the rise of fundamentalism in politics. Without the focus of the Vietnam war, and with many of the symbols of the movement made outright illegal, it lost it's focus and unity and broke apart into factions that no longer had the strength to resist the counter-push.
Hold up for a second, what symbols have been made illegal here exactly?
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #192 on: February 16, 2013, 04:14:01 pm »

The open use of drugs?
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Re: FearfulJesuit's American Politics Megathread Two: Election Boogaloo
« Reply #193 on: February 16, 2013, 06:06:21 pm »

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Black Power Salute get's you blacklisted for life. I'd call that a pretty clear case of a symbol from the 60's / 70's activist movement being more or less illegal. Mind you this is just the first thing i googled, so there well may be more stuff.
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