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Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
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Rick Santorum
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Chris Christie
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Rand Paul
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6450 on: April 06, 2014, 11:02:42 pm »

It isn't a stupid place, though, these are well-populated areas. The guy in the article couldn't find people willing to show up to the interviews for a high-paying manufacturing job with good benefits and high wages, and here in Oklahoma they couldn't find people who could do grade-school mathematics, so they had to relocate the factory to Poland. I'm just not sure why people are complaining about a nation-wide unemployment issue when stories like this are the story of the day. I mean, yes, there are economically depressed areas, and there are people who are getting shafted by the labor market, but if you can't convert cups to quarts or do long division, that's your own problem, not the economy's.

Sorry, but that's bullshit. Having been on the hiring end of this, there is no shortage of employees, there's only a complete unwillingness on the part of employers to actually contribute to a skilled economy. They will not train employees, they have automated all of their previous introductory positions, they move around so much that no one can safely invest in developing the skillset they need because the opportunity will be gone by the time they acquire the skills. They value pointless degrees and certificates over reliable workers, and reject out of hand those who do completely qualify for the position simply because they are missing one of the many " technical requirements" that they'll pick up in a matter of days or weeks actually working the job.

When you're facing these sorts of problems, there's two things you can do:
Man up, and work on your company fundamentals and make some investments in the future of your work force.
Move to some place with enough of a critical mass in your industry that people will train themselves because they know the jobs will be available.

The US doesn't have a lot of the second anymore - corporate mobility, offshoring and automation not only destroyed the paths to that sort of knowledge economy, but completely disincentive people making their own.

Take the guy in the article:
He's looking for exerience, but paying in peanuts. He's tossing people out left and right in the pre-screen, for being too old, for working in the wrong industry, and not considering them for any of his other positions, but just outright tossing them. Then the ones he chooses... He's getting multiple no shows - in my mind, that's a warning sign on the employer's part. People no-show when they think you're dicking around with them, for whatever reason. He finally offers the top job to someone who was applying for a different job and who, from the way he acted up to that point, wouldn't have even considered if she had applied for it.

He has a very specific idea of who he's looking for and what he wants, but what he wants is the same thing everyone else wants, and he wants a different company to have done all the work of making these people, and he's offering salaries that just aren't competitive for the sort of people he's targeting.

You know how you get both an employee and employment shortage at the same time?
Eliminate and automate all the jobs where people can acquire experience without requiring experience, and being unwilling to invest in any alternative routes to success and unwilling to compete for the few who you might be willing to hire.

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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6451 on: April 06, 2014, 11:05:19 pm »

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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6452 on: April 06, 2014, 11:15:01 pm »

The sad thing is, the irony is probably lost on those commenters.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6453 on: April 06, 2014, 11:32:33 pm »

God damn modern tween plebeians, try picking up a real work like 1984 (it's obscure, but hey, why not go all the way) instead of spending hours listening to trashy rap lyrics and celebrity romance. Maybe then we'd have more modern and sophisticated gentlemen instead of thugs.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6454 on: April 06, 2014, 11:58:52 pm »

And let's bring back the fedora while we're at it!

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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6455 on: April 07, 2014, 12:02:27 am »

Might as well make the internet a bit friendlier for the m'ladies while we're at it.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6456 on: April 07, 2014, 12:13:36 am »

As Emperor of the Thread, I decree that Fedoras are proper attire for people to wear while reading this thread.

Additionally, I decree that all faithful followers take a moment out of their lives to read a good classic book. If you excuse me, I'm going to be posting comments on how kids these days don't read as a response to something I read from NPR.

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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6457 on: April 07, 2014, 01:46:48 am »

So should I read Twilight or something old like Harry Potter?
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6458 on: April 07, 2014, 08:10:32 am »

So should I read Twilight or something old like Harry Potter?

Whatever you want to read, as long as it makes you feel like an American Gentleman.

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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6459 on: April 07, 2014, 08:32:45 am »

This is kind of America.  And interesting.

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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6460 on: April 07, 2014, 09:20:43 am »

This is kind of America.  And interesting.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26918961

Someone needs to make a Latin American politics thread...I can't right now, though.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6461 on: April 07, 2014, 09:35:03 am »

We don't need a thread for every area in the world, you know. A megathread is only necessary when there's lots of stuff reported about something or somewhere (like the USA politics thread here). We can make new threads for individual events/reportages for the rest.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6462 on: April 07, 2014, 09:56:04 am »

I do recall  there having been an Antarctic Megathread at some point?
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6463 on: April 07, 2014, 10:23:31 am »

Those outside the US might not know that the right wing here has been making a lot of noise about how the ACA will lead to an explosion of costs because everyone getting insurance obviously only did it because they were unhealty, meaning insurance will get more expensive leading to the unhealthier dropping their insurance an so forth until we arrive at socialist bread lines in front of doctors offices where they will euthanize you just to save you the pain of Obamacare.  So in that context it's funny to see the scope of overrun we are talking about: http://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/04/04/2-32-per-person-per-month/

tl,dr: expect premiums to go up 2.50 in 2015 and communism to arrive in 2016.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6464 on: April 07, 2014, 10:37:08 am »

I do recall  there having been an Antarctic Megathread at some point?

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