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Bay12 Presidential Focus Polling 2016

Ted Cruz
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Michelle Bachmann
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Chris Christie
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Rand Paul
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6465 on: April 07, 2014, 11:04:35 am »

Those outside the US might not know that the right wing here has been making a lot of noise about how the ACA will lead to an explosion of costs because everyone getting insurance obviously only did it because they were unhealty, meaning insurance will get more expensive leading to the unhealthier dropping their insurance an so forth until we arrive at socialist bread lines in front of doctors offices where they will euthanize you just to save you the pain of Obamacare.  So in that context it's funny to see the scope of overrun we are talking about: http://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/04/04/2-32-per-person-per-month/

tl,dr: expect premiums to go up 2.50 in 2015 and communism to arrive in 2016.
Oh god, that's hilarious. Time to annoy my right-wing relatives (it's all retaliative, I assure you).
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6466 on: April 07, 2014, 11:08:14 am »

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Um, hello? Costs won’t go up because they can execute the sick people with their death panels. It’s like you weren’t even paying attention back in 2010.

You darned liberals, ignoring the voices of reason.


On another note I can't tell if this specific comment is serious or trolling. That is the desperate state of modern day internet comments.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6467 on: April 07, 2014, 11:17:55 am »

Also, I forgot to actually comment on this one:
This is kind of America.  And interesting.

Mexican Vigilantes
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26918961

I hadn't heard a thing about such vigilantes before. But, iirc, didn't one of the now-biggest drug cartels start out as a "self defence group"/vigilantes as well?
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6468 on: April 07, 2014, 11:20:59 am »

I hadn't heard a thing about such vigilantes before. But, iirc, didn't one of the now-biggest drug cartels start out as a "self defence group"/vigilantes as well?

I believe that's the Knight's Templar or related groups. Acted under the guise of protecting local businesses and was essentially just extorting them, then went the straight drug-cartel route of violence and smuggling.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6469 on: April 07, 2014, 11:21:49 am »

That's fairly obviously trolling, mate. "Get your stories straight!" is the subtext.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6470 on: April 07, 2014, 11:23:15 am »

The problem is, you have to defend yourself against the cartels or they'll kill you. But to defend yourself you need weapons, logistics, and the ability to counter-bribe the people the cartels are bribing. So you need money. A lot of money. And to get that much money....you start selling drugs. Eventually, you have to start acting ruthlessly if you want to make a real dent in the cartels. The cycle continues.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6471 on: April 07, 2014, 11:27:47 am »

Huh. FiveThirtyEight finally relaunched a couple weeks ago and I completely missed it. Time to go see if it's up to the old standards.


Also, I forgot to actually comment on this one:
This is kind of America.  And interesting.

Mexican Vigilantes
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26918961

I hadn't heard a thing about such vigilantes before. But, iirc, didn't one of the now-biggest drug cartels start out as a "self defence group"/vigilantes as well?
The vigilantes are problematic, but it seems like they've been doing more good than bad on the whole. They'll need to go eventually, but the gov't had better be really sure of its hold before it disbands 'em.


[Also, one of Emperor Norton's titles was 'Protector of Mexico'. So such discussions should be fine here =P ]
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6472 on: April 07, 2014, 11:30:02 am »

The problem is, you have to defend yourself against the cartels or they'll kill you. But to defend yourself you need weapons, logistics, and the ability to counter-bribe the people the cartels are bribing. So you need money. A lot of money. And to get that much money....you start selling drugs. Eventually, you have to start acting ruthlessly if you want to make a real dent in the cartels. The cycle continues.
Haven't the Mormons and Autodefensas got around that by just killing/removing people who were under cartel payrolls?

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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6473 on: April 07, 2014, 11:38:47 am »

Huh. FiveThirtyEight finally relaunched a couple weeks ago and I completely missed it. Time to go we if it's up to the old standards.
I've thought it has been. It's great to have FiveThirtyEight be not on NYT, the bastards.
Haven't the Mormons and Autodefensas got around that by just killing/removing people who were under cartel payrolls?
If so, it might explain the disturbing spiral of all public officials being murdered. Either you don't take cartel payoffs and die, or you do take cartel payoffs and die.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6474 on: April 07, 2014, 01:21:06 pm »

Huh. FiveThirtyEight finally relaunched a couple weeks ago and I completely missed it. Time to go we if it's up to the old standards.
I've thought it has been. It's great to have FiveThirtyEight be not on NYT, the bastards.

So....they're going to be doing advanced stats analysis on sports *and* politics?

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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6475 on: April 07, 2014, 01:22:27 pm »

So....they're going to be doing advanced stats analysis witchery on sports *and* politics?

FTFY
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6476 on: April 07, 2014, 02:50:06 pm »


So....they're going to be doing advanced stats analysis on sports *and* politics?


Remove the word advanced and put scare quotes around the word analysis.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6477 on: April 07, 2014, 05:29:42 pm »

If so, it might explain the disturbing spiral of all public officials being murdered. Either you don't take cartel payoffs and die, or you do take cartel payoffs and die.
Yeah, it's hard not to mention "death" when a sentence includes "Mexico" and "cartels."

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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6478 on: April 07, 2014, 05:34:02 pm »


So....they're going to be doing advanced stats analysis on sports *and* politics?


Remove the word advanced and put scare quotes around the word analysis.
You sound skeptical of Lord Silvermort's powers.
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Re: Emperor Norton's Imperial Politics Megathread
« Reply #6479 on: April 07, 2014, 09:11:09 pm »

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