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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19275 on: August 19, 2015, 02:02:27 pm »

Back to the real world

Barrel of Brent oil = $47
Barrel of WTI oil = $41

What the hell is happening with oil prices?

I noticed the same last week... Actually also look at all material prices for the last 6 months or so.

China?

Only things not going down are Ruble to Euro/USD exchange ratios.
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19276 on: August 19, 2015, 02:06:22 pm »

You do realize that instead of spending money on F-22, they decided to spend it on F-35 (they considered adding an ability to carry infantry in it, what)?

And once again you miss my point.  There are more F-22 in existance then any other 5th generation for a long time.
There would be more if USA focused on making realistic Wunderwaffes that actually work, instead of jet bomb trucks capable of carrying people in the bomb bay.
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« Reply #19277 on: August 19, 2015, 02:15:05 pm »

You do realize that instead of spending money on F-22, they decided to spend it on F-35 (they considered adding an ability to carry infantry in it, what)?

And once again you miss my point.  There are more F-22 in existance then any other 5th generation for a long time.
There would be more if USA focused on making realistic Wunderwaffes that actually work, instead of jet bomb trucks capable of carrying people in the bomb bay.

Are you talking about this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II ?

I'm not seeing anything in wikipedia on that they considered adding seats in the bomb bay, also, none of them actually do that.
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19278 on: August 19, 2015, 02:45:34 pm »

There would be more if USA focused on making realistic Wunderwaffes that actually work, instead of jet bomb trucks capable of carrying people in the bomb bay.

So your argument is that I fail to acknowledge something I said three posts ago?
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19279 on: August 19, 2015, 02:49:48 pm »

ITT: A Pole praises the might of Russian army (in an insane way, because T-34s have been completely retired a long time ago) and disses American and European ones.

How ironic.
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« Reply #19280 on: August 19, 2015, 03:09:52 pm »

ITT: A Pole praises the might of Russian army (in an insane way, because T-34s have been completely retired a long time ago) and disses American and European ones.

How ironic.
Also, TIL zerg rush is an official strategy of the Russian Armed Forces.
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« Reply #19281 on: August 19, 2015, 03:11:29 pm »

ITT: A Pole praises the might of Russian army (in an insane way, because T-34s have been completely retired a long time ago) and disses American and European ones.

How ironic.
Also, TIL zerg rush is an official strategy of the Russian Armed Forces.

It's called blitzkreig.
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« Reply #19282 on: August 19, 2015, 03:14:09 pm »

ITT: A Pole praises the might of Russian army (in an insane way, because T-34s have been completely retired a long time ago) and disses American and European ones.

How ironic.
Also, TIL zerg rush is an official strategy of the Russian Armed Forces.

It's called blitzkreig.
Blitzkrieg using WW2 weaponry in 2015's Europe is something completely extraordinary.
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« Reply #19283 on: August 19, 2015, 03:20:18 pm »

Also, blitzkreig is not a modern Russian army strategy any longer. Haven't you heard about the "hybrid warfare" already?
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« Reply #19284 on: August 19, 2015, 04:02:19 pm »

Though it would be something else for Russia to blitz the Germans in WW2 era equipment...

I mean we've all made the "Putin is running Hitlers script" comments but that would just be amazing.
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« Reply #19285 on: August 19, 2015, 04:55:02 pm »

I was just correcting zerg rush to blitzkrieg since thats partially what it is.
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« Reply #19286 on: August 19, 2015, 04:55:26 pm »

Hey, I'm on your side - my criterion for a sufficiently strong German army is that it should be able, together with the Polish army, to at least fight the Russian army to a standstill in a conventional war. I don't like having to rely on the US, and I really, really dislike the prospect of having to rely on a Le Pen-led France.

It seems like every new thing I hear about Le Pen makes her and FN even more concerning than before.
Huh? Explain - I think I'm missing something.
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« Reply #19287 on: August 19, 2015, 06:16:06 pm »

Hey, I'm on your side - my criterion for a sufficiently strong German army is that it should be able, together with the Polish army, to at least fight the Russian army to a standstill in a conventional war. I don't like having to rely on the US, and I really, really dislike the prospect of having to rely on a Le Pen-led France.

It seems like every new thing I hear about Le Pen makes her and FN even more concerning than before.
Huh? Explain - I think I'm missing something.

I didn't understand your comment about Le Pen, so I looked at FN's wikipedia page to see if I could get some insight. There I found that they oppose the sanctions on Russia (and maybe support their claim on Crimea?) and sent a guy over there in March to mark the independence of the People's Republic of Donetsk. That may not have been what you were referring to, but it was still a surprise to find that a major party in Western Europe had such a stance.
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19288 on: August 19, 2015, 06:17:02 pm »

I'm not seeing anything in wikipedia on that they considered adding seats in the bomb bay, also, none of them actually do that.
It was something requested by marines intially, thankfully (or rather hopefully) someone noticed how stupid that is and scrapped it. Though, honestly, I can't find any sources on it right now, but that won't make me stop trying to find it (on the other hand, it may have been a stupid comment someone made during F-35 hate, but I'm pretty sure it was a thing).
ITT: A Pole praises the might of Russian army (in an insane way, because T-34s have been completely retired a long time ago) and disses American and European ones.

How ironic.
AFAIK, T-34-85Ms are still kept in warehouses (they aren't really reserves per se, but if there was a need Russia could still roll a quite a few of them out, though nowadays they are used for films and reentacting at best). And I'm pretty much providing an only one example on how they would actually win something (modern combat is about hitting hard in small numbers, wether it is conventional or guerilla). I do agree that this isin't Soviet Union (yet) and (hopefully) Russians have enough sense to not enjoy being cannon fodder. Also, I don't really see how that's ironic. I'm a Pole. Don't expect me to think of "allies" highly, expect me to think of enemies as of big powers and expect me to say that Poland is going to win anyway.
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Re: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!
« Reply #19289 on: August 19, 2015, 06:28:34 pm »

Hey, I'm on your side - my criterion for a sufficiently strong German army is that it should be able, together with the Polish army, to at least fight the Russian army to a standstill in a conventional war. I don't like having to rely on the US, and I really, really dislike the prospect of having to rely on a Le Pen-led France.

It seems like every new thing I hear about Le Pen makes her and FN even more concerning than before.
Huh? Explain - I think I'm missing something.

I didn't understand your comment about Le Pen, so I looked at FN's wikipedia page to see if I could get some insight. There I found that they oppose the sanctions on Russia (and maybe support their claim on Crimea?) and sent a guy over there in March to mark the independence of the People's Republic of Donetsk. That may not have been what you were referring to, but it was still a surprise to find that a major party in Western Europe had such a stance.
And I just noticed that you wrote 'concerning', not 'appealing'. Needless to say, I was baffled.

I should get some sleep.
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