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Author Topic: 90% of fortress-born dwarves & animals are 1/10th normal size (fixed in LNP)  (Read 125734 times)

anzelm

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Re: Fortress-born dwarves & animals are not growing to adult size!
« Reply #285 on: June 14, 2013, 02:30:58 am »

You guys should get some sort of medal from Toady for fixing (aye, this is more than just a workaround) a serious bug. As the cause is known, it should now be trivial for him to fix it in the source.

I'm off to order some pets from the mountainhome.
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« Reply #286 on: June 14, 2013, 11:24:27 am »

My war grizzlies are doing a lot better now that they're full-sized. Before, a single knife strike could incapacitate or kill them,  but now they fight on and actually get some good chomps in.  They're still quite vulnerable to arrows and bolts, though  I'm thinking of creating a special squad with all the war animals of my fortress attached.  They can hang back a bit so that my shield legendaries can take the brunt of the missile fire, then charge in.

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« Reply #287 on: June 14, 2013, 01:10:53 pm »

Dwarf Fortress Players.
Obscured bug discovered?
Reverse engineered and fixed in two weeks.
Damn, you guys are fast!
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Re: Fortress-born dwarves & animals are not growing to adult size!
« Reply #288 on: June 15, 2013, 01:01:47 am »

Aha. Interestingly enough, I already tend to make all my fortress-born dwarves axe wielders as a sign of status, and give hammers to the filthy migrant militia. Lucky I haven't been doing things the other way round.

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« Reply #289 on: June 15, 2013, 05:21:34 pm »

Aha. Interestingly enough, I already tend to make all my fortress-born dwarves axe wielders as a sign of status, and give hammers to the filthy migrant militia. Lucky I haven't been doing things the other way round.

yup. BTW I woudl think size still matters for axes and such, just less so. weak sad dwarven baby-adults are still a lot easier to kill than burely giant dwarven-adults.
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« Reply #290 on: June 16, 2013, 10:26:42 pm »

There's an interesting discussion in this thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=109319.0) where people see effects of this bug, from about a year ago. However, they decide that it is just because they are not fully grown.
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« Reply #291 on: June 17, 2013, 12:30:39 am »

There's an interesting discussion in this thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=109319.0) where people see effects of this bug, from about a year ago. However, they decide that it is just because they are not fully grown.
Well, in a way their conclusion is the correct one.  They weren't fully grown, just not for the reasons we thought at the time.
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« Reply #292 on: June 28, 2013, 03:23:44 pm »

THIS explains so much, it isn't even funny.

Pressure plate problems. Bad injuries in fortress born dwarves. War animals. Non working airlocks and logic circuits. ...

So either lock down your long term fortress completely or wait for the alpha version. Or is there by any chance a fix for the Mac version?

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« Reply #293 on: June 28, 2013, 06:58:38 pm »

THIS explains so much, it isn't even funny.
Pressure plate problems. Bad injuries in fortress born dwarves. War animals. Non working airlocks and logic circuits. ...
So either lock down your long term fortress completely or wait for the alpha version. Or is there by any chance a fix for the Mac version?

If you can get DFhack r3 to run on mac (i think you can do it with wine or some other form of emulation) a fix is possible. Otherwise you are stuck with microdwarves.

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« Reply #294 on: June 28, 2013, 10:21:35 pm »

Can this be stickied? And perhaps the title changed again? It seems pretty important.
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« Reply #295 on: June 28, 2013, 10:42:45 pm »

Can this be stickied? And perhaps the title changed again? It seems pretty important.

What would you suggest as a new title? 

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« Reply #296 on: July 06, 2013, 03:40:07 am »

In the new title I'd be sure to address that this effects all forts and typical makes dwarves about 1/10th of the size they should be; as well as all other creatures born in the fort. I think this is worthy of a hotfix.
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« Reply #297 on: July 06, 2013, 04:07:24 am »

In the new title I'd be sure to address that this effects all forts and typical makes dwarves about 1/10th of the size they should be; as well as all other creatures born in the fort. I think this is worthy of a hotfix.

It affects all forts, but not all fortress-born dwarves or animals. "Just" 90% of them.
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Re: Fortress-born dwarves & animals are not growing to adult size!
« Reply #298 on: July 06, 2013, 06:47:34 am »



after butchering around 20 cave croc hatchling to save space, i realized that i had 400 cave crocodile meat and an around 500 bones. cave croc hatchling are around 70 cm3 when they're born and that when i killed them. the amount of meat they dropped is what an adult should drop.

other than that, there doesn't seem to be any problems.

certainly better than before
« Last Edit: July 06, 2013, 07:28:05 am by PDF urist master »
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Re: Fortress-born dwarves & animals are not growing to adult size!
« Reply #299 on: July 06, 2013, 12:50:35 pm »

In the new title I'd be sure to address that this effects all forts and typical makes dwarves about 1/10th of the size they should be; as well as all other creatures born in the fort. I think this is worthy of a hotfix.

It affects all forts, but not all fortress-born dwarves or animals. "Just" 90% of them.

Well yes but you can't exactly put all of that in a title.
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