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[WillowLuman]

Ohh, gonna have fun with this...

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September 16th, 109

Oh no, Swamp Championmallard has gone completely mad! Started babbling about "rocks" and "bones". He's taken over one of the workbenches, I hope he calms down soon.

September 20th, 109

We only had enough for the wood, which, while badly needed, was not everything we needed. Expedition made a nest box, we piled together all the excess quivers the refugees brought, and pawned one of our two hatchets to get several logs. What's worse, the Elves were offended that we brought the hatchet to trade, and left immediately with so much more wood we might have traded a length of rope for.

October 6th, 109

Swamp finished whatever he was working on, and seems back to normal


It's a bit scary. And inappropriately named. I won't think much of it now, but this is highly suspicious. He also says he's a master stonecrafter now. I hope he's right.

November 11th, 109

My oh my. Expedition set a cage trap out on the ice... and we've caged a Panserblekk. Well, I am a proficient animal trainer, so I think I'll give it a try! Whether it works or not, we're probably going to eat it, eventually.

[Poldon]

I am currently testing a caravan arriving at my depot repeatedly. So far the first two times it exploded, and I didn't check what might have done it, and the third time I looked at all the items carefully for any potential culprits and suspected a few, but then nothing combusted. I'll report anything I find.

Edit: Man, pack beetle caravans move freaking fast. Also I just noticed Coal Blocks in the cart. I am already highly suspicious of these now.

Edit2: Two carts arrived in quick succession, each with one "coal block". I recall that both types are named identically, so I wondered whether either would actually blow up. First one unloaded fine, the second exploded. I'm pretty certain that the explosive coal is the culprit, however.

Edit3: In order to be completely sure, I have changed the doom coal's in-game name to "coaldoom" and will watch for syndromes on soldiers stationed nearby. Also I'm going to attempt to go frame by frame and see if I can see it ignite.

Edit4: A caravan arrived without any coal at all and nothing blew up. I did notice a couple of very strange items, however:
Various kinds of wood gems
Prepared chitin chain robe
I'm guessing that these should not be possible.

[Baekin]

Wood gems seem odd, but the chitin chain robe is actually less so. Prepared chitin is treated as a metal by the game, and thus a valid choice for the game to produce metal items from, including the chain robe. At least I think.

[Poldon]

I have tried umpteen times now to get the caravan to bring more explosive coal and it has not done so. On the other hand, it has not blown up either. I am going to go to bed now, but someone needs to prevent the doom coal from being brought in caravans in a future bugfix.

[WillowLuman]

Just add [SPECIAL] to it.

Checking the most recent upload, it does have [SPECIAL]

[StLeibowitz]

Wood gems seem odd, but the chitin chain robe is actually less so. Prepared chitin is treated as a metal by the game, and thus a valid choice for the game to produce metal items from, including the chain robe. At least I think.

Wood gems are an oddity, but prepared chitin chain robes are intended, in the sense that prepared chitin is a metal. Actually, I've only ever seen them use it for weaponry, so this is a step in the right direction

[Poldon]

Wood gems seem odd, but the chitin chain robe is actually less so. Prepared chitin is treated as a metal by the game, and thus a valid choice for the game to produce metal items from, including the chain robe. At least I think.

Wood gems are an oddity, but prepared chitin chain robes are intended, in the sense that prepared chitin is a metal. Actually, I've only ever seen them use it for weaponry, so this is a step in the right direction

Okay, I was assuming "prepared chitin" was somehow chitin that had been prepared as food and then after that turned into a chain robe. Seemed a bit odd to me.


Also I do see the special tag. Going to test a bit more this morning to see if I can determine whether it's still showing up or what's happening.

[WillowLuman]

Do halflings have the reaction to prepare Chitin?

[laularukyrumo]

I forget if we determined whether wood gems (which we discovered in Leibowitz's turn) were due to weirdness or raw duplication. It wouldn't surprise me... but then again, nobody's seen mountains of blood (yes, that was a thing during my turn) in a while...

[WillowLuman]

Here's an idea: we should have reactions to make "beds" from hair or feathers, since those are soft materials once often used for mattress stuffing. Preferably we'd rename the product to "mattress", but I don't know if that's possible.

[Halfling]

That's clever. Beds can't be renamed. But they should definitely be able to be made from soft things.

Halflings don't have reactions to work chitin, nor should have. Organs are EDIBLE_COOKED (as makes sense for most species, considering it is the template used for intestines), does that not work? If so, any permission to fix so that they actually are edible cooked (but not raw) is of course given as that's the intention.

[Aseaheru]

You still cant process apples. A pity.

[WillowLuman]

The organs just go straight to the refuse pile, there's no way to convince the Halflings to cook them as they don't show up in the kitchen menu. It needs both MEAT and EDIBLE_COOKED for the game to recognize it as edible meat. I know your intention was to make people to cook organs first, but you didn't need to omit the meat token, because it's the EDIBLE_RAW token that makes something edible raw, not the lack of EDIBLE_COOKED.

And it's not just the template used for intestines, it's used for ALL organs, having been consolidated into a singe "organs," so giving ORGAN_TISSUE the properties of intestines alone is a bad idea.

[Halfling]

Well, shouldn't people generally speaking like to process internal organs before eating? I guess that's one trade off that comes with removing seemingly unnecessary body parts for speed that you can't make different rules for intestines and hearts. Liver should definitely be edible raw, intestines and kidneys probably not, eating the brain raw should give you kuru, and so on.

I left out meat because it's not meat - but didn't think that would lead it to being refuse. And I was unaware that one needs [MEAT] for this to work, so that should be added next bugfix.


Apple tree issues, part II:

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reaction_kopout

[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:PREPARE_APPLE_TREES_KPT]
   [NAME:prepare apple trees]
   [BUILDING:LUMBERYARD:CUSTOM_A]#a for apple
   [AUTOMATIC]
   [SKILL:CARPENTRY]
   [REAGENT:A:1:WOOD:LOGS:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_HLG:STRUCTURAL] <--------------------------
   [PRODUCT:100:1:WOOD:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_WOOD_KPT:APPLE_WOOD]
   [PRODUCT:100:2:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_FRUIT_KPT:APPLE_FRUIT_STRUCTURE_KPT]
   [PRODUCT:50:1:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_FRUIT_KPT:APPLE_FRUIT_STRUCTURE_KPT]   
   [PRODUCT:25:1:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_FRUIT_KPT:APPLE_FRUIT_STRUCTURE_KPT]
The origin of this bug is unknown. I know it used to work previously and this must therefore be an untracked change. Fix: marked line should read

  [REAGENT:A:1:WOOD:LOGS:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_HLG:RAW_APPLE_TREE]

[Putnam]

No, it shouldn't It should read [REAGENT:A:1:WOOD:NONE:PLANT_MAT:APPLE_HLG:STRUCTURAL].