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[Halfling]

My name was mentioned.

Sorry, people. I was in the hospital for a time, and after coming back, well, I decided to make a change, that I don't want to do video games every day. I started working really hard on my studies and forgot to come here for a long time. I just assumed this had died.

Instead you've made some new, wonderful things, and the project keeps on going. Makes me feel ashamed that I should be a negative influence on this. Looking at what has happened it seems a system of free contribution is more fruitful in the long run than one of turns. The turn-based thing frequently lead to frustration.

The downside is, without organization and testing, it would be extremely laborous to cobble what has been posted into a new release, unless people are willing to post a list of what they have tested in-game and works. For example, most of the designs posted on the last few pages don't work, since they use vanilla templates.

Making a new thread would be sane. This is one of the longest threads in this forum. It has a lot of history and extremely good material, but is also the length of a book. Alternatively, if you want to keep it going I can give control of this account to e.g. StL and HugoL, the people who've been active and interested in this since the beginning, for purposes of maintaining this thread. I can always make a new one, I'm not particularly attached to names.

[StLeibowitz]

Well, not playing video games every day doesn't mean you can't check up on the forums

But seriously, sorry you were hospitalized and glad you got better. Things got a bit...shall we say, fluid, in your absence. With exams coming up, I might lack the time to adequately manage the thread (I guess a little is better than nothing though), so turning over the keys to Hugo might be wiser, if he doesn't have anything going on for him. If he does, though, a joint management might work, splitting the work between us.

Compiling all the recent stuff might be too much effort for how long it'd be usable for. I mean, DF2014 (there's probably error bars on that number) is coming out at some point very soon, and there'll be some pretty extensive raw changes coming, what with the separation of combat speed and movement speed, the inclusion of jumping and climbing, multi-tile trees, a tracking system, a basic system of smell (if I interpreted the devlog right), and all the rest. Thinking over it, it might actually make more sense to start over from scratch again. That's practically what we would be doing anyways. Plus, it would give us a chance to further refine our improvements, like the taxonomy classes, and add a few - with the proliferation of body parts in everyone's body raws, I was toying with the idea of making a sort of Body Building Kit, lego minifigure style, of a bunch of basic body parts, ie BODY_2EYES, BODY_1EYE, BODY_3EYES, BODY_2EYES_CHEST, BODY_1EYE_CHEST... that sort of thing. It'd help make body tissue layers and stuff easier since everything would have the same class (it's a problem I've been bumping into trying to set up inorganics in my spare time).

It'd have to be a group decision, though. Chucking the work we've all done and starting over again is a big move, and even with my ideas I'm still a little leery of it.


Now, that being said...

@Dwarf4Explosives: A taxonomic list would be cool to have. If you want to do it, I see no issues with having one

[squidgen]

Well, considering I haven't made any contributions, and aren't all that familiar with the raws we have now anyway, I'd be okay with starting over.

[WillowLuman]

I'd be OK with a new thread (though I myself am in college, so I can't take over fully) We might want to wait on that until DF2014 comes out, though. In the meantime, perhaps someone can reserve a couple posts right here to be the new center of compilation, and then Halfling could just link to them in the OP.

[Dwarf4Explosives]

Sorry to hear about the hospitalization, Halfling.

At any rate, I'd say we should start with a new thread for DF2014. I think the best way for us to deal with the changes is to make a list of what creatures have been looked over (and perhaps changed) and which still need to be. If we can compile a list of traits that have changed in the change to DF2014, it'll be a lot easier.

I don't think changing all of the body plans is a good idea, though. I do agree that we should remake the creature and syndrome classes, however. I guess my list will come in handy with that.

[Urdothor]

Oh, I'm sorry to hear about the hospitalization Halfling.

[Halfling]

Thanks. No more sorries, please. I should have come here and said something.

Sending over the passwords for thread administration to both. We're a trinity now, in principle.

[WillowLuman]

Well then, looks like it's time to start rounding up submissions.

[CaptainMcClellan]

May I ask why you were hospitalized Halfling?

Also @HugoLuman: have I actually submitted anything?

[WillowLuman]

Umm, just find any raws you've made and post them again. If they work we'll go ahead and count them I guess.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

Topaz ants work... can they get added?

Ants:

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creature_gem_Lady

[OBJECT:CREATURE]
[CREATURE:ANT_TOPAZ]
   [DESCRIPTION:An ant made of pure topaz. They capture the souls of the dead and create statues from them.]
   [NAME:topaz ant:topaz ants:topaz ant]
   [CASTE_NAME:topaz ant:topaz ants:topaz ant]
   [CREATURE_TILE:176][COLOR:6:1:0]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:INORGANIC][CREATURE_CLASS:CRYSTALLINE]
   [NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOBREATHE][NOSTUN][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION]
   [NOTHOUGHT][NOEXERT]
   [NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
   [NOT_LIVING]
   [NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
   [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT]
   [PREFSTRING:golden colour]
   [PREFSTRING:statues]
   [VERMIN_SOIL_COLONY][FREQUENCY:10]
   [VERMIN_NOTRAP]
   [ARTIFICIAL_HIVEABLE]
   [HIVE_PRODUCT:1:403200:STATUE:NONE:INORGANIC:CRYSTAL_SOULS]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:250:500]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:100:200]
   [SMALL_REMAINS]
   [PETVALUE:1]
   [PETVALUE_DIVISOR:1000]
   [SPEED:2900]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:1]
   [BIOME:ANY_LAND]
   [BODY:BEETLE_BASE_STL]
   [TISSUE:GEM]
      [TISSUE_NAME:topaz:NP]
      [TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:TOPAZ_LADY]
      [SCARS]
      [MUSCULAR]
      [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
      [CONNECTS]
      [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
      [HEALING_RATE:1000]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:GEM]
   [INORGANIC]
   [CASTE:MALE]
   [MALE]
   [POP_RATIO:95]
   [CASTE:FEMALE]
   [POP_RATIO:5]
   [FEMALE]

Topaz:

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inorganic_Lady

[OBJECT:INORGANIC]

[INORGANIC:TOPAZ_LADY]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:GEM_TEMPLATE_STL]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:topaz]
   [TILE:15][DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:1]
   [ENVIRONMENT:IGNEOUS_ALL:CLUSTER_SMALL:30]
   [IS_GEM:topaz:STP:OVERWRITE_SOLID]
   [SOLID_DENSITY:2600]
   [MELTING_POINT:12970]
   [MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
   [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:GOLDEN_YELLOW]

[WillowLuman]

Sure. Keep stuff coming!

[StLeibowitz]

Has anyone actually added anything to the wikis in a while, or should we just strike them from the OP? It's been bugging me a while.

Also, @Kaladin: Minor typo in your creature description; that comma should be a period, to make the description read: "An ant made of pure topaz. They capture the souls of the dead and create statues from them." Otherwise, pretty cool! Any plans for what those souls will be useful for?

[Scarlet]

The wikis might be immensely useful if used, especially if used right from the outset. Note how hard it is to find posts now. However, not one has gained a following. It might be time to strike all but one at least.

[WillowLuman]

Sounds good to me.