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[Egan_BW]

The fact that he hasn't used a bow since school is a joke on the fact that all fighters know how to use a bow, but many will never use it because they're the "hitting things" class.

[Harry Baldman]

The fact that he hasn't used a bow since school is a joke on the fact that all fighters know how to use a bow, but many will never use it because they're the "hitting things" class.

Well, more because bows aren't very good in D&D 3.5 for doing any kind of remotely okay damage, but otherwise yeah.

[Sergius]

Multiclassing is definitely in 3.5 and almost certainly 3.0 too. Heck. In AD&D the only way you could become a bard involved three class changes, from Fighter to Thief to Druid, so multiclassing was a thing way back in the early days. _{Of course you could easily be talking about something different and I'm sure that the specifics have changed quite a bit from edition to edition too so... Eh?}

It could be said that 3.x was THE multiclassing edition, it was the one that codified the whole thing where each level you can pick a different class. Up to that point only demi-humans got their weird experience splitting/hit point averaging multi-class, mostly because they were limited to a maximum level in each class. And humans got some dual classing that was weird.

The fact that he hasn't used a bow since school is a joke on the fact that all fighters know how to use a bow, but many will never use it because they're the "hitting things" class.

Well, more because bows aren't very good in D&D 3.5 for doing any kind of remotely okay damage, but otherwise yeah.

Bows are annoying because you can't add ability bonus to damage, except for composite bows need high strength and dexterity to be effective.

[Reelya]

old D&D rules "multiclassing" were extremely restrictive, complex and error-prone. you couldn't just decide to take your next level as "whatever" as you could in 3.X

Up to 2nd ed, you could be a multi-class demihuman, but you had to choose the classes at character creation from a preset number of racially restricted choices. XP would be split between your 2-3 classes, and since each class had it's own unique level up table, the classses would level up at different rates.

Or, you could start as a single class human, then at some point, switch to another class but you're bumped back to first level and not allowed to use any of the old class's abilities until you get your new class back up to the level of the old class. This was how the bard thing worked in 1ed.

e.g. you could start as a fighter, then switch to a mage at level 4, but you had to somehow forget how to hold a sword and wear armor, then when you get mage back to level 4 and above, you were suddenly allowed to use your fighter abilities again. Which was a bullshit system, but obviously could be an advantage over playing a pure mage: start as a class with strong HP for a few levels then switch to a magic-heavy class later. Since early levels are so cheap you only end up about 1 level behind everyone else, but you can gain quite a few levels of fighter for that one lost level of mage (because each class had it's XP calculated separately).

Obviously, the 3ed+ system is a lot simpler than the above choices.

[Enemy post]

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[smjjames]

I'd have gone for the healer (cleric) first, regardless of whether NotDurkon's regen would have handled it or not.

Also, I'm pretty sure realDurkon showed the vampire his memory of using a creatively improvised sonic attack just as the other vampire did that, hence the being unimpressed.

[Rolan7]

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At first I thought she was referencing hellfire (which burns fire-immune creatures like flame elementals) but it's actually the Flame Strike spell - half the damage is divine in nature.  Not positive energy, but not resisted either.

I used to love that spell, heh.  This is about how I pictured its unusual "column" shape.

[scriver]

Another already? I guess writerguy must be feeling the spring energy too!

[smjjames]

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At first I thought she was referencing hellfire (which burns fire-immune creatures like flame elementals) but it's actually the Flame Strike spell - half the damage is divine in nature.  Not positive energy, but not resisted either.

I used to love that spell, heh.  This is about how I pictured its unusual "column" shape.

The edge of that seems to have also one hit KO'd one of the vampires.

[Rolan7]

Wait, is she using her baby as a divine focus?  That is a component for Flame Strike, and it's almost like Burlew is drawing attention to her off-hand (and other clerics typically are shown grasping their holy/unholy symbols at such times).

[smjjames]

Wait, is she using her baby as a divine focus?  That is a component for Flame Strike, and it's almost like Burlew is drawing attention to her off-hand (and other clerics typically are shown grasping their holy/unholy symbols at such times).

She clearly loves her son despite who fathered him and the fact that Durkon got her pregnant is currently the focus of her ire, so, that and the natural desire to protect her child makes sense that he could be used as the focus. It's kind of a double focus actually.

He also seems to be wearing a tiny pendant which could be Loki's holy symbol. No idea what the rules are for that, but I guess if you're 'wearing' a creature that is then wearing a holy symbol, I guess it works? OR it could be the zipper on his one-piece, no idea.

[Rolan7]

Yeah, I bet you're right about the pendant.  That would be a neat bit of trickery.
I was wrong about OotS clerics always being drawn grasping holy symbols when they're supposed to, but still.

[Akura]

The holy symbol is part of the baby harness. PRE-EDIT: Huh, no it's not. The brown is Kudzu's shirt, the red is the harness.


How odd though, Flame Strike is not a Fire Domain spell, it's part of the Sun and War Domains. Not that she cast it as a domain spell. Damage from that would be 15d6 * 1.5(Empowered Spell), with half the damage(or 30 if the total damage is 60 or more) removed due to Resist Fire. Mr. Crispy is probably a lesser spawn and/or blew his Reflex save, though that spell could conceivably have dusted them all; (15*6)*1.5-30 = 105 damage. Only Durkon, assuming 17th-level, could potentially have that many hitpoints.

[Culise]

I thought she was just covering his eyes so he didn't look directly into the Flame Strike.  I didn't think there was any extra motivation beyond her statement.  Does Greater Scrying require a divine component?  That could be a clue, since she isn't making the same gesture there.

[smjjames]

Do we even know what Loki's holy symbol looks like? Helga from WAAAYY back didn't have a pendant or anything while Durkon had (and is still wearing) his holy symbol pendant.