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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #4005 on: August 08, 2020, 07:36:38 am »

I mean I was just trying to make a joke about arguments being like fights but you know. With sissy wind noices instead of actually fighting one another
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« Reply #4006 on: August 08, 2020, 07:53:49 am »

I mean I was just trying to make a joke about arguments being like fights but you know. With sissy wind noices instead of actually fighting one another
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« Reply #4007 on: August 08, 2020, 07:54:21 am »

Is there any death more honorable than that in the direct service of your god, delivering their literal message to its destination?
It isn't about honor, its about the technicalities of how you die, if you die with amazing honor peacefully in your bed... you go to hel.

If you die from an arrow in the skull after you broke into someones house and started murdering their puppies you would presumably go to valhalla.

Now, the technicalities are vague given that we see scenes of the gods arguing over who should go where, but both Thor and Hel have pretty reasonable arguments about where he should go based on the fact that an enemy killed him vs him not dying in actual battle.
Personally I would argue that Hel has a better claim, but I'm not sure how it will play out given neither Hel or Thor are going to be willing to give up on his soul.

The Giant has gone into this on the forum, and you have to be acting honorably when you die. He specifically calls out "a politician being assassinated for his policies (as long as he intends to do what he says) and "freezing to death while trying to get food to a starving village" as honorable.

With that in mind, it is easy to parse the logix.

When Hilgya killed him, Durkon was trying to do The Right Thing and make up for an earlier lapse in character. Thus it was an honorable death.

Similarly, if he dies here it will be as a result of him honorably carrying out a mission given by his god. Thus honorable.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #4008 on: August 08, 2020, 07:49:39 pm »

Also, it'd be awfully rude to claim the soul of your uncle's cleric.
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« Reply #4009 on: August 11, 2020, 10:16:25 am »

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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #4010 on: August 11, 2020, 10:37:54 am »

Durkon can throw some sick burns under pressure.
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« Reply #4011 on: August 11, 2020, 10:42:27 am »

Minrah! :D
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« Reply #4012 on: August 11, 2020, 11:06:11 am »

Minra is bestra

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« Reply #4013 on: August 11, 2020, 11:13:08 am »

This is actually one of the few circumstances where "what would thor do" is very applicable to the situation.
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« Reply #4014 on: August 11, 2020, 11:28:10 am »

Durkon can throw some sick burns under pressure.
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« Reply #4015 on: August 11, 2020, 05:18:34 pm »

Redcloak: "I propose: Implosion."

Durkon: "I call my proposal 'Giant Dwarf with a Hammer.'"
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« Reply #4016 on: August 18, 2020, 12:41:53 pm »

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« Reply #4017 on: August 18, 2020, 01:51:49 pm »

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« Reply #4018 on: August 18, 2020, 01:53:49 pm »

You know, a good old Zone of Truth could maybe have helped a lot here. :P
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« Reply #4019 on: August 18, 2020, 03:21:41 pm »

Zone of Truth is easy enough to save against. Far, far easier than, say, Implosion, assuming it's not prepared as a Heightened spell. Probably why Redcloak went to such extreme lengths when interrogating O-chul; there's probably nothing in the multiverse that can compel someone to give information that someone with a good enough Will save can resist. Might also be why Cliffport doesn't allow divintation magic in its criminal proceedings.

It's also not likely to be a spell a cleric engaged in multiple, Epic-level combat encounters for weeks on end would reserve a spell slot for, Heightened or otherwise.
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