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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3825 on: February 12, 2020, 06:46:01 pm »

Damn. That's a good one. Wish I could cross-post it to the GitP forums to see what they think.


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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3826 on: February 12, 2020, 07:06:50 pm »

Doesn't having dragon's blood improves magical powers too, or am I confusing it with something else? Being magic users does seem to run in the Greenhilt family...
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« Reply #3827 on: February 12, 2020, 07:10:37 pm »

Dragon's blood generally is the cause for Sorcerers' magic, but Eugene and Julia are both Wizards.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3828 on: February 12, 2020, 07:14:18 pm »

I must be confused then. Never mind.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3829 on: February 17, 2020, 05:11:32 pm »

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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3830 on: February 17, 2020, 06:26:41 pm »

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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3831 on: February 17, 2020, 11:34:10 pm »

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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3832 on: February 17, 2020, 11:42:44 pm »

I can see a situation where the GM would want to allow for a straight-up better version of Sending, though.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3833 on: February 18, 2020, 07:24:04 am »

Yeah but it'd need to be a higher spell level at least, surely?

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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3834 on: February 18, 2020, 08:23:30 am »

Don't see why. It's just "this universe's version of Sending has no word limit and is lower level". It is within the GM's domain to decide what spells are available.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3835 on: February 18, 2020, 08:48:40 am »

I mean I could see a GM ruling that the Sending spell in their game is less restricted, but I'm talking about a situation in which you research essentially Sending+ in a context where Sending exists as is. Presumably, Sending has those restrictions at that spell level for reasons. So a version without those restrictions would logically have either different and roughly equivalent restrictions (like perhaps lower range or something in exchange for more words), or would require more effort and skill to cast (higher spell level).

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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3836 on: February 18, 2020, 09:29:11 am »

Not in 3.5, but in 5.0, there is Lv8 Evo Telepathy. Lasts 24 hours but only within one plane and shares both words and images.

The spell Julia is using seems to be something like that, made easier by piggibacking on an existing magical bond.

In general, if a spell is outright better, it should be higher level, cost more to cast or have lengthened casting time.

Sending:
Spell Level: Cleric 4, Sorcerer/Wizard 5
Components: SMV (copper wire)
Casting time: 10min
Duration: 25 words (twice)

Julia's 'Sending':
Spell Level:Wizard <5
Components: unknown (Blood oath shared by caster and target, not consumed)
Casting time: unknown
Duration: >1 round

It's level is lower, and duration is longer. We know that it requires the caster and target to share a blood oath. There may be other caveats, such as other components or longer casting time.
Overall, I suspect that removing the Blood Oath requirement will increase the spell's level over 5.

Another funny thing. The description of Sending says nothing about sending your image (only about the 25 words), but says that the recipient recognises you. If you remember from previous page, Roy thought it was his dad. So this spell is clearly not sending in it's functionality.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3837 on: February 18, 2020, 02:18:25 pm »

Sending in OOtS always creates an image of the caster, and the primary reason Roy thought Julia was Eugene was that Eugene had a tendency to pop in on him just like that.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3838 on: February 18, 2020, 09:03:01 pm »

Yeah. He wasn't looking at her to know it was Julia and not their dad until she spoke.
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Re: Order of the Stick
« Reply #3839 on: February 20, 2020, 10:47:03 am »

You can still follow the spirit of a rule and make it funny, so not recognizing someone immediately can be played for laughs (had it been Sending).

For example, a version of Sending could be cast in 1 minute but then you spend the next 9 minutes hearing a recording telling you to wait in line, that XXX has a message for you, while playing some muzak.
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