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oolon1

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Grates/bars
« on: October 30, 2007, 11:42:00 am »

So far, these new things are the most confusing for me.  What are grates for and how do they work?  "Floor bars"?  I assume they're used to regulate water, but I can't seem to make them work, and the movie Toady released showing grates was not demonstrative of what was actually being done, except that it could be done.

Thanks in advance.

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Arkan15

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Re: Grates/bars
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 11:47:00 am »

Grates allow water to pass through while allowing dwarfs to walk on them.

You build them like bridges. You can put them anywhere, but they are only really working if you build them over empty space.

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Wiles

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Re: Grates/bars
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 11:49:00 am »

So do you need to build a channel under a grate for it to work?
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 11:50:00 am »

quote:
Originally posted by Wiles:
<STRONG>So do you need to build a channel under a grate for it to work?</STRONG>

Yes.

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Re: Grates/bars
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 11:58:00 am »

Thanks. I abandoned my last fortress because my farming system didn't work properly. That was the part I missed.
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oolon1

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 03:53:00 pm »

Cool, so grates are walkways.

What are bars?

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Arkan15

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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 03:57:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by oolon1:
<STRONG>Cool, so grates are walkways.

What are bars?</STRONG>


Haven't checked.

Fun side note: Fish will pass through grates. In my current fort I have a giant room draining from the river just for the hell of it (I wanted to see if I could divert the flow at all), and there are 8-9 fish visible swimming around at any given time.

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darknight

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Re: Grates/bars
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 07:38:00 pm »

Bars are like grates, except for walls. I plan to put some in the tunnel to my well's cistern, but I have to wait until the tunnel is dug out before trying to build the grates.
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Re: Grates/bars
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2007, 07:13:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by darknight:
<STRONG>Bars are like grates, except for walls.</STRONG>

I'm afraid this probably isn't quite right, as you can install a grate as either a "wall grate" and a "floor grate", and you can also install "vertical bars" and "floor bars".  and iirc, you can attach both bars and grates to levers.  So I'm not sure what the distinction is.

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Re: Grates/bars
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2007, 08:48:00 pm »

materials required?
you must build a grate item to build grates, but I do not know about bars.
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Re: Grates/bars
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2007, 08:50:00 pm »

I don't think there's a meaningful distinction at this time (perhaps the grate does have that extra step to make the item).  Later, I imagine larger items will fall through bars, and only small items will go through grates.  Grates might also stop most vermin.  Perhaps even small units could go through bars.
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Re: Grates/bars
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2007, 01:44:00 am »

Also, how am I supposed to have my new kickass dwarven prison without vertical bars?
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