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[JodGap]

Experimental version:
http://jodgap.kd.io/dfdb/ DOWN

[thistleknot]

This VM has been turned off

[JodGap]

Will be online for the next 15 minuts http://jodgap.kd.io/dfdb

[JodGap]

http://dfdb.info/
i bought a domain and rented a host. Now is online 24/7 and needs feedback and new ideas.

[Maklak]

Heh, this is pretty similar to what my scripts do, http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126953.0  except your work is geared more towards users than modders. For example it uses database on the server and can't be quickly updated for local changes, unlike my scripts. It has more eye candy and I like it that unlike with my scripts, you can sort by columns, but overall it is cluttered and not as readable as my tables. Rows having alternating colours is a nice touch.

* Consider adding check-boxes for what to display. I've run into the problem of having too many columns and solved it with command line options, but with a www server, check-boxes and a button are a more obvious solution. We don't need all the information at the same time, just a way to select the columns we want.
* More human-readable names to columns. Keep them short and maybe add some explanatory text at the bottom.
* Some columns can be combined without impacting readability. For example instead of three structural elasticity columns that display "1", have one named "Elasticity" that displays a combination of "Ch. All", "Ch. Met.", "Thread", then explain it below the table.
* Modders need IDs for things.
* By default, sort everything alphabetically by name.
* For boolean things "Yes" and "No" should be more readable than "1" and "".

I seriously consider resuming work on my scripts, then finding a way to integrate them into one tool that can output a set of locally linked web-pages. It would be especially useful for navigating syndrome and interaction chains. Well, I think I know how to do that, but I need a better architecture than "put everything in one file and have like 5k lines of code and a hundred global variables".

[JodGap]

@Maklak I really appreciate your extended feedback, i was not able to integrate all your tips this time as i was more focused on improving the design.

DFDB with new style: http://dfdb.info/

Please feel free to repeat again whatever suggestion that can be done to this new model

[Aigre Excalibur]

Adding a value calculator would be incredible.

[milo christiansen]

One word: workshops.

Workshops and furnaces (with lists of what they can make) would be an incredible help to new players (or just people new to a mod)

I assume that they would be rather difficult to add though...

[Maklak]

> I assume that they would be rather difficult to add though...
Not that difficult. The relevant building data are just these tokens:
[BUILDING_WORKSHOP:(.*)],  [NAME:(.*)],  [BUILD_ITEM:1:BLOCKS:NONE:NONE:NONE][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]
 
Then there are reactions which need to remember their ID, building, name, skill and keep the lists of reagents and products. Their scripts already read item data too, so most of reagents and products can even use IDs instead of names. It is just some butt in the chair work to implement all this. About the only complication I see is how to present the data clearly.

[milo christiansen]

About the only complication I see is how to present the data clearly.

That's sorta what I meant

[Urist McTeellox]

Going through all threads, and this is rather awesome.

Is the source code available anywhere? (Please say github)

~ T

[Meph]

Source it not available as far as I know, but I want this integrated into MDF somehow. Either as link in the manual/gui (if it is permanently online), or as downloaded utility which is added into the GUI.

This database is too good not to be included. It also shows the hundrets (thousands?) of unused and unneeded item-leftovers in the mod, which helps me clean it up.

[JodGap]

The website domain and server was already paid for a year, so it is going to be online.

It will be improved eventually and store more things like reactions buildings creatures...

The source code will not be open for public until the website is finished, it can only be shared with other coders that join our team to improve it.

[Meph]

In that case I will add a button to the GUI that opens the website. Simple.

[arcturusthelesser]

I'm not exactly sure if this the right time or place to say this, but in the masterwork section, loads of (maybe) weapons and (definitely) armor can be made of more materials than are currently listed. This is due to the Temple of Armok's gear-sacrificing reactions, where the product inherits the reagent's material. I've made leather versions of pretty much every high-level armor with that reaction. Granted, I guess that, except for possible applications in the inventor's workshop,the products aren't as useful as metal versions, but nevertheless . . .