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[10ebbor10]

A few questions 10ebbor10:

• Are all of the things you've listed so far ideas, or are there some technologies?
• If they are all ideas, how would we go about getting farms (if we don't start off with them or something)?
• For that matter, what abilities do we start off with (if any)?
• Is there a limit to how many ideas we can combine to form a tech, or can we combine as many ideas as makes sense?

1) They are all ideas (Though some might need to adjusted). However some ideas are directly related to technologies. Having the farming tech immediatly allows you to build farms. (Not having any food gathering tech would be quite interesting, but should be possible). There are also some generic buildings.
2) Construction mechanics will be revealed soon. Still working on it.
3) You get some generics. In fact, I suppose you can do anything without needing the tech. Generic's suck though.
4) You can combine anything that makes sense, and that doesn't. (Results will be similair, or spectacular failures)

Magical wells are for example very useful for domestic production, but not mobile enough for defense.

Do you mean offense?

Both. Wells are often to far between to form an effective defense line. They're outflanked easily.

On a side note; how about the following addition to the tech system. You still research (using points, because those are easy to manage) individual inventions/technologies, and unlock the ideas by researching or using related technologies and ideas.

Not sure if I'm going to do it, as it might make ideas to hard to get by.

[evilcherry]

That would put tons of stress and time drain on the GM. Tread lightly there If I were to advise you.

[GreatWyrmGold]

On a side note; how about the following addition to the tech system. You still research (using points, because those are easy to manage) individual inventions/technologies, and unlock the ideas by researching or using related technologies and ideas.

Not sure if I'm going to do it, as it might make ideas to hard to get by.

Something like that could work.

Maybe call them "development points," no that sounds like social/infrastructure development. Anyways, these sound more like finding ways to put these general technologies together in better ways--new kinds of tanks/cars/phones or whatever, or putting a telephone and a car together to make a phone, or figuring out how to ride a horse in full plate armor, or stuff. The "Innovations" would be getting these technologies/ideas.
Maybe not your idea exactly, but it kinda makess ense to me.

[10ebbor10]

That would put tons of stress and time drain on the GM. Tread lightly there If I were to advise you.

Yup, that too.

[evilcherry]

Usually it would devolve into either:

a: GM you decide what I can research next
b: GM Why fire and levers do not led to firearms?
c: Okay so with knowledge of two languages I should introduce doublespeak! *GM duly rolls D100*

as I said, tread real lightly.

[Remuthra]

Spoiler: Did you say Technocracy? (click to show/hide)

Name: Brotherhood of Fire
Short History and Description: Fire is man's first and greatest achievement. From fire comes light, weapons, metal, all things man must use. The truly brilliant among mankind recognize this simple fact. Fire is the root of all achievement, and it is fire we must turn to for our salvation. Thus, those of the true calling of Science have come, from far and wide, to join in a Brotherhood under the majestic flame, to study and perfect their mastery of the universe. We have settled here, in this valley of Gray, choked with ice and snow, surrounded by watching sentinels, and founded the Hall of the Enduring Spark, around this the icy one who nevertheless is home to the burning blood of the earth, that we might forge a great nation. Above all stands the mighty Blazing One; he who rests in the Cave of Enlightenment high on Mount Secret Fire; he who is possessed of the favor of the Sparkfather; he who oversees the uplifting of the Brotherhood. When he dies, it is said one will be chosen by the holy flames of his Pyre, branded in his name, that his successor might be made known. We have established through the years a rough city of small houses, one for each Noble Family which joined our great Brotherhood. In the center of the half-ring, backing onto Mount Secret Fire, the large stone structure that is the Hall, where we might study in peace.Surrounding our small city, capping the ring of mountains like a stony crown, is the Curtain, found by the earliest settlers and refurbrished through our devotion, with wooden gates to the Four Winds and small towers every few hundred feet. These may later become our Great Plinths, but for now we are content. In the richer lands beyond, on the outskirts of the mountains, the four Tongues of our citadel reach out to bury themselves in the soil and support the good of the Brotherhood. Though life in the outskirts may not be as glorious as that of a great Student of Flame, the Tonguedwellers provide the Hall of the Enduring Spark with vital supplies without which we could not continue our Great Work.

Capital  [Population: 5]
       - Stone Wall with Towers and Four Gates

       -North Tongue (Farming Village)
       -East Tongue (Industrial Village)
       -South Tongue (Farming Village)
       -West Tongue (Mining Village)

Army:
       -Technographers (Battlefield Engineers)
       -Irregulars (Basic Mainline Soldiers)

Science and Magic
       -Agriculture
       -Chemistry
       -Mining
       -Mechanisms
       -Steam Power

[Patrick Hunt]

Ebbor can you let me know when you make up the final rules? I'm gonna hold off on making the sheet until then. The background is completed though.

[tryrar]

I have an idea for an island nation, so when the rules are finalized I'd like to join in

[Patrick Hunt]

So is mine.

[10ebbor10]

I'll try to get it finished tomorrow/today.

For the tech system, I currently have 2 semi viable solutions:

-Just buy both ideas and inventions with science points.

-Only buy inventions with science points. Each invention can include one notresearched idea, which will then be unlocked.

I think I'm going for 1 though.

Anyway, if anyone has suggestions for schools of magic or other magical ideas, that would be nice. Techs are appreciated too, but that list is more filled out.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Nature\druidish tree?

Divination tree?

Timespace manipulation tree?

Light and electricity tree?

[10ebbor10]

Thread's up. Have a feeling I forgot something though.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Whala :
Short History and Description:
Primitive nation of merchants whalers, travelers, explorers, they live on a cold barren northern shore of a continent, for ages they were surviving hunting on whales and other marine mammals until one shaman discovered a way to control whales using magic. Not only that multiplied quantity of meat, fat, bones, skins and various other useful stuff from whales, but it also provided a way to tow their primitive boats over large distances that soon was used for trade and sometimes raiding
Unfortunately that came not without a price, Whala became dependent on their whales and knowledge about hunting and gathering that feed their grandparents was lost... 

Later specialists started to appear, some families were expert whalebreeders, some carved bones and never did anything else, some constructed houses out of snow or whales , some became merchants and some warriors

Capital:
Wicon  [Population: 5]
       - Minor Defenses (Located on an island near the shore separated by narrow, 50m straight)

Villages:
3*Whale breeders
1*Port\marketplace
1*Barracks

Resources:
    -10/20 food
    -20/30 Construction material
    -10 Mana
    -0/2 innovation points:
Army:
       -Sea raiders (basically spearmen with boats towed by whales)
       -Spearmen

Science and Magic
       - Livestock
       - Magical Husbandry
       - Travel by sea
       - Domesticated whales ( Livestock+Magical Husbandry+Travel by sea)
       - Division of Labor
 

Posting here to get GM's feedback before making actual application