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JoshuaFH

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« Reply #3030 on: December 22, 2018, 07:19:45 am »

Enlightening. I'll still keep 'toss into black hole' on my Evil Overlord Execution Methods list though.

Well, surrounding a black hole is a quasar, the hottest and brightest things in the entire universe outside of supernovas; so before you can throw anybody into a blackhole for spaghettification, you'd have to quasar-proof them against what is something like 10 trillion degrees of heat they'd have to pass through first. I mean, that probably helps with the execution, but it's the spirit of the matter.
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« Reply #3031 on: December 22, 2018, 07:56:15 am »

Now that would be enlightening!

And if you get that far as to need to invest in quasar-proofing your... 'guests'... go on to do this thing and then just surrender when they end up coming back after you, anyway, you might well have not used the right level of commitment to your chosen career path, one way or another.
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« Reply #3032 on: December 22, 2018, 08:53:12 am »

Enlightening. I'll still keep 'toss into black hole' on my Evil Overlord Execution Methods list though.
Well, surrounding a black hole is a quasar, the hottest and brightest things in the entire universe outside of supernovas

Only some supermassive black holes, most are quite inactive and perfectly suitable for gravity-based execution. Besides, the column of hard radiation coming out of a quasar is a better execution method anyway! You can raise their chances of getting deadly cancers by several thousand percent, AND you also get to bake them alive in an ambient temperature of millions of degrees or more, all while they suffocate in the vacuum of space!

It's genius! They'll never survive this, don't bother watching. Just open the airlock and leave, and all your bothersome enemy troubles will be over!
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« Reply #3033 on: December 22, 2018, 08:55:11 am »

Yeah or throw them in and bomb the quasar after just to be sure.
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« Reply #3034 on: December 22, 2018, 09:49:47 am »

They're probably not getting back from that, certainly. If they are, you've got other problems!

I'm curious what way out from within the event horizon you see that justifies saying they only "probably" won't return.
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« Reply #3035 on: December 22, 2018, 09:53:53 am »

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« Reply #3036 on: December 22, 2018, 12:02:23 pm »

You want to kill somebody with gravity? Feed him spoons of neutrino stars. Or drop it on the surface of one.
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« Reply #3037 on: December 22, 2018, 01:09:34 pm »

They're probably not getting back from that, certainly. If they are, you've got other problems!

I'm curious what way out from within the event horizon you see that justifies saying they only "probably" won't return.

Magic bullshit shenanigans, probably of the plot variety, in which case there's nothing to be done except complete surrender.

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« Reply #3038 on: December 22, 2018, 01:24:02 pm »

Or take the opportunity to increase your Evil Overlord powers in a similar manner. After all, you can't spell "opportunity" without (most of) "plot"!
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« Reply #3039 on: December 22, 2018, 02:19:41 pm »

Or take the opportunity to increase your Evil Overlord powers in a similar manner. After all, you can't spell "opportunity" without (most of) "plot"!
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« Reply #3040 on: December 22, 2018, 05:01:39 pm »

You want to kill somebody with gravity? Feed him spoons of neutrino stars. Or drop it on the surface of one.
Neutron I think you meant, my head hurts trying to figure out what a neutrino star would be like.

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« Reply #3041 on: December 22, 2018, 06:10:29 pm »

Step 1: accelerate two neutron stars to relativistic speeds
Step 2: let them collide with your enemy from opposite directions
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« Reply #3042 on: December 22, 2018, 06:40:00 pm »

Lost in translation? I just thought that by employing a neutron star you at least could see the effects. It's too risky to simply trust and not see the person die, if all the bond villains are an example of anything.
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I'm curious as to how a tank would evolve. Would it climb out of the primordial ooze wiggling it's track-nubs, feeding on smaller jeeps before crawling onto the shore having evolved proper treds?
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« Reply #3043 on: December 22, 2018, 10:27:53 pm »

Well, surrounding a black hole is a quasar, the hottest and brightest things in the entire universe outside of supernovas; so before you can throw anybody into a blackhole for spaghettification, you'd have to quasar-proof them against what is something like 10 trillion degrees of heat they'd have to pass through first. I mean, that probably helps with the execution, but it's the spirit of the matter.



The cloest quasars are billions of lightyears away, which means they existed billions of years ago, but don't now. They're not some compact thing, they huge. Galaxy-sized. in fact, they were probably the precursors to modern galaxies.

What a quasar is, is a galactic nucleus, but there's a large accretion disk of gas an debris, which falls into the galactic center, causing a huge energy output. It's nothing to do with black holes in general, everything to do with how galaxies formed. So, you'd have to specifically be falling into a galactic center black hole that's perhaps billion of times as massive as the sun (far more than an average black hole) around 10 billion years ago. However, you'd die of old age or be killed by the radiation exposure long before you got to the point where you're noticing the space distortion from the black hole.

Also, if you're falling into such a large black hole, then the relative force between your head and your feet wouldn't be as great as it would be as if you were falling into a small black hole (large black hole's event horizon is a lot further out), so the subjective force of sphaghettification would be a lot different in a black hole huge enough to be part of a quasar. See wikipedia article on Spaghettification. Tidal forces are highest at the surface for very dense objects. Large black holes have a lower density - since a doubly massive black hole has twice the event horizon, so 1/4th the density.
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« Reply #3044 on: December 22, 2018, 10:49:30 pm »

They're not some compact thing, they huge. Galaxy-sized. in fact, they were probably the precursors to modern galaxies.

Quasars top out at around 106 AU in diameter, which is about 1/19th the diameter of even the smallest dwarf galaxies and about 1/2000th the diameter of the average 104-parsec galaxy. It's kind of lazy to say they're "galaxy-sized"
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