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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #450 on: November 15, 2014, 06:18:18 pm »

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30058176
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Astrophysicist Elizabeth Pearson: "Philae is not dead it's just sleeping"

Apparently they got back a big batch of scientific data just before it stops transmitting though, so that's good.
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« Reply #451 on: November 15, 2014, 06:20:58 pm »

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30058176
lol, that scientist quote:
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Astrophysicist Elizabeth Pearson: "Philae is not dead it's just sleeping"

Apparently they got back a big batch of scientific data just before it stops transmitting though, so that's good.

Apparently the reason why it can't get the power it needs is because it's up against a cliff that I guess they couldn't see from the pictures before landing. Or maybe they did see it, it was just the best possible.
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« Reply #452 on: November 15, 2014, 06:26:20 pm »

It kind of bounced in front of the cliff.
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« Reply #453 on: November 15, 2014, 07:26:06 pm »

Yeah, for those just tuning in, it was a rather eventful landing.

The vehicle had 3 main devices for securing itself upon landing: spiked feet of some sort to secure it in the material it landed on, a cold-gas thruster to push it into the comet, harpoons to attach itself to the comet and reel itself in. As for what happened:

1. In testing prior to final approach, the cold-gas thruster failed to fire, can pretty much assume that's died in some way over the course of the decade-long space travel.

2. Upon approach, the harpoons failed in some way (haven't seen any details on that; but it could either be a failure to attach to the surface or just not fired, though I think it was the latter).

3. Devices on the feet failed to get a good grip on impact.

4. Comets of that size have tiny amounts of gravity. Craft impacted comet, bounced off the surface, landed a second time approximately 2 hours later (because, again, tiny gravity). At which point it bounced a second time for something like 15 minutes, and supposedly a small third bounce as well.

5. After it stopped bouncing, craft is expected to be up to a km from the landing site (which is a pretty big distance on a comet which is only a few km across). They aren't sure from pictures quite where it actually is in relation to the planned landing site. Just that it seems to be near a cliff covering it in shade most of the time.
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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #454 on: November 15, 2014, 07:31:03 pm »

The harpoons didn't fire, it's suspected to be because the propellant isn't reliable in a vacuum.
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« Reply #455 on: November 15, 2014, 07:32:48 pm »

The harpoons didn't fire, it's suspected to be because the propellant isn't reliable in a vacuum.

*facepalm* Why did they use something that they knew wasn't reliable in a vacuum? Oh I know, maybe to cut down costs.

Edit: Though it seems to be eight years after launch that they found out.
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« Reply #456 on: November 15, 2014, 07:33:29 pm »

The harpoons didn't fire, it's suspected to be because the propellant isn't reliable in a vacuum.

*facepalm* Why did they use something that they knew wasn't reliable in a vacuum? Oh I know, maybe to cut down costs.
They didn't know. That's why they used it.
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« Reply #457 on: November 15, 2014, 07:36:29 pm »

I read the article and apparently it wasn't until eight years after launch that they found out.
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Re: Space Thread
« Reply #458 on: November 16, 2014, 07:34:44 pm »

In other space news, in about 2 weeks, NASA will be launching the first test flight of the Orion crew module.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_Flight_Test_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(spacecraft)#Crew_Module
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It's a fairly large capsule, about 50% larger than Apollo capsules, with 4-6 crew and intended for deep space missions.
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« Reply #459 on: November 16, 2014, 07:50:54 pm »

Deep space? Jesus I'd hate to be stuck in that thing on the way home.

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« Reply #460 on: November 16, 2014, 08:25:16 pm »

It's just for short term missions, 10 odd days supposedly, if they went to mars they'd have something like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Habitat
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« Reply #461 on: November 16, 2014, 08:28:08 pm »

Capsule tests! Reminds me so much of Apollo.
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« Reply #462 on: November 16, 2014, 08:30:58 pm »

In other space news, in about 2 weeks, NASA will be launching the first test flight of the Orion crew module.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_Flight_Test_1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(spacecraft)#Crew_Module
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« Reply #463 on: November 19, 2014, 02:53:10 am »

In other news on the Orion stuff: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30094942
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The European Space Agency and Airbus have signed a contract that will see the aerospace giant build the "back end" of America's new manned spaceship.
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The vehicle needs a propulsion unit to push it through space and to carry the humans' air and water.

So, the ESA officially signed on to the project as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_Service_Module
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« Reply #464 on: November 19, 2014, 04:06:59 am »

What I find most exciting is that Orion's first manned mission is planned to rendezvous with a captured asteroid in lunar orbit sometime in 2021. If they can pull that off, just think of the implications! If mining asteroids becomes feasible, I can see it setting off the space equivalent of the gold rush and revolutionizing the entire space industry, hell, the entire planet. Although the prospect of a private company eventually being able to redirect asteroids toward Earth is a bit scary, everything would have to be regulated extremely tightly. In any case, it looks like they haven't even settled on an asteroid yet. Hopefully the project doesn't end up getting delayed, the space program is in desperate need of this kind of decisive progress.

Also, this may not come as news to everyone else, but as I just found out, China has their own space station: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiangong
Well, an orbital lab with plans to expand it into a 60 tonne space station. I don't know why I only found out about this now, it's been up since 2011. I blame the media's americentrism.
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