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[Sonlirain]

Umm not sure about open Xcom but didn't zapping a cyberdisc with a stun rod cause it explode in your face? I can vagualy recall that happening to me in the original years ago.

[EnigmaticHat]

http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Cyberdisc

Unlikely.  But given the glitchy nature of oldcom, its possible.

[Orb]

Cyberdiscs are resistant to explosions. So apply more plasma.

[sluissa]

The truth about old x-com, and it was probably fixed in Open as it was a fairly large bug, was that "large" units, such as cyberdiscs and reapers and anything else that took up 4 squares, would take near quadruple damage from anything that was area of effect. This included explosives and stun bombs. They were supposed to be resistant to them, but even if you're only taking 50% damage, if the explosion registers on all 4 sections of the character model and adds damage to the total for each one, that's still double the damage that should be output even without resistance.

It was a good strategy of old, but if they've fixed it we need to find different methods.

As far as stunning them, it is possible, but I remember it being quite tricky to actually pull off, I always did it by pure accident.

[Sonlirain]

The resistances combined with armor often meant them recieving only scratch damage inless you use really strong explosives... and chances are you won't have really strong and flexible explosives (both Rocket launchers and HE packs are hella heavy and cumbersome) when you first meet cyberdiscs so you are left fighting them with laser rifles (or cannons if you are very sloppy with research as anything below cannons just won't even dent it) and normal grenades that can't get through the resistances and armor to even make a dent.

[EnigmaticHat]

I killed cyberdiscs with stun bombs on superhuman, in version .9, so I think they are being faithful to the original in that respect.

[Steelmagic]

I like openxcom, in normal xcom it was never easy but I didn't feel like I was really in danger of outright losing. Then I get openxcom and I end up standing on a goddamn tightrope, where falling equals failure for humanity. Gave me a hell of a lot more appreciation for explosives, though.

[Fikes]

Any one have the math for chance to hit with autoshot vs snap shot?

I have a 26% chance to hit with snap and an 18% chance with auto... but I get three tries with auto.

I am not worried about hitting more than once or TU to chance to hit, I am just curious about straight up probability.

[0x517A5D]

Any one have the math for chance to hit with autoshot vs snap shot?

I have a 26% chance to hit with snap and an 18% chance with auto... but I get three tries with auto.

I am not worried about hitting more than once or TU to chance to hit, I am just curious about straight up probability.

0.18  +  (0.82 * 0.18)  +  (0.82 * 0.82 * 0.18) = 0.448632

45% chances of hitting with at least one of the three shots.

[Arcvasti]

In my experience, snap shots are better at long range whereas auto shots are better at close range. 3 18% chances SHOULD be better then one 26% chance, but in practice 2-3 of the 3 shots end up missing at moderate to long range. But in close quarters an auto shot works about the same, if not better, then a snap shot.

Related:

I just lost most of my crew because psionic powers. I had 6-7 people and my Commander standing by in the Skyranger, both because I don't want to cause a panic from high-ranking officers dying and because I didn't feel like walking them all the way to the UFO. One of them had this cool new Blaster Launcher I'd been meaning to try out but forgot to. Their Sectoid Leader, in the turn RIGHT BEFORE the rest of the squad burst through the door and stunned him, mind controlled the one with the Blaster Launcher and killed all of the ones in the Skyranger. They were all wearing Power Suits too. After I got over the loss, I have to admit it was pretty awesome. Albeit awesome for the enemy, but still awesome.

[Fikes]

Any one have the math for chance to hit with autoshot vs snap shot?

I have a 26% chance to hit with snap and an 18% chance with auto... but I get three tries with auto.

I am not worried about hitting more than once or TU to chance to hit, I am just curious about straight up probability.

0.18  +  (0.82 * 0.18)  +  (0.82 * 0.82 * 0.18) = 0.448632

45% chances of hitting with at least one of the three shots.

Where are you getting the 0.82?

[crazysheep]

Where are you getting the 0.82?

Probability of missing a shot?

[0x517A5D]

Where are you getting the 0.82?

Probability of missing a shot?

Yeah.  1.0 - 0.18 = 0.82.

[Orb]

I have absolutely nothing to back this up, but the degree to which your units miss seems to be dependent on the accuracy of the shot. So, a 90% accuracy shot might just barely miss the alien scum, while a 10% might veer off to the side and hit your buddy. With this in mind, I read somewhere that the accuracy for the shot only determines if it's "hit scan". A shot fired that "misses" on the dice roll can still hit, which is why you're highly likely to hit in close quarters. These "misses" also can run into cover, unlike the "hit scan" ones. /Speculation

[gimlet]

I don't know what you were trying to do with that calculation, but the probability of hitting at least once is usually calculated by doing (1 - (probablilty of missing all shots)) = 1 - (.82 * .82 * .82) = .551368 (roughly 55%).