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Author Topic: [REFERENCE] Creature Errors - Starvation, immortals, unbreedables, pet problems  (Read 3333 times)

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[REFERENCE] Creature Errors - Starvation, immortals, unbreedables, pet problems
« on: February 14, 2014, 03:57:36 pm »
5-9-14: I have updated this reference with more types of "errors".

For the purposes of this post, creature variations were culled from the list - only the base creatures are included.
Some of the below behaviours may be "as intended" - dragons being immortal, elementmen being unbreedable, etc

Spoiler: Feeding problems (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Immortal creatures (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Unbreedable Creatures (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Pet problems (click to show/hide)

Thanks to Vattic for the info on immortals and pets - http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=136374.msg5115622#msg5115622
« Last Edit: May 09, 2014, 11:03:47 am by CryptoCactus »
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[REFERENCE]Creature Errors - Starvation, immortals, unbreedables, pet problems:
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Re: [REFERENCE] Unbreedable Creatures List - missing CHILD tags, missing sex castes
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 05:06:39 pm »
Nice work!  Seems to be a good foundation for a total creature overhaul mod, fixing breeding along with streamlining wildlife.
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Re: [REFERENCE] Unbreedable Creatures List - missing CHILD tags, missing sex castes
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 11:22:22 pm »
Indeed. Some other areas that could use some work:

wonky pet_values
missing c_variations
immortal creatures
underpowered (semi)megabeasts

Haven't gotten around to making lists of what's what though, yet. PET_VALUE would be a lot of work for a relatively minor goal, c_variations are easy but some people don't really like them in the first place, and many of the immortal creatures might be that way intentionally. I like having mortal creatures, though - I always make at least gobs and elves mortal so they'll have a shot at "extending" their life through unnatural means.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2014, 11:28:16 pm by CryptoCactus »
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[REFERENCE]Creature Errors - Starvation, immortals, unbreedables, pet problems:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=136374.0

My unofficial Modest Mod update:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105871.msg5021367#msg5021367

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Re: [REFERENCE] Unbreedable Creatures List - missing CHILD tags, missing sex castes
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2014, 08:51:55 pm »
Elephants and other grazing creatures that are unbreedable because they all starve to death.

Giant insects that only live for 1 year.
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Re: [REFERENCE] Unbreedable Creatures List - missing CHILD tags, missing sex castes
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2014, 02:14:08 pm »
Spoiler: Immortal Creatures (click to show/hide)

Edit: I've been messing around with Python lately and figured I could learn file handing, string manipulation, and how it deals with regular expressions by generating some of the lists you mentioned.

Spoiler: Creatures + Pet Type + Pet Value (click to show/hide)

Of note is that the giant and man variations strip PET, PET_EXOTIC, and PETVALUE. For whatever reason the only man variant to get pet tokens are the tigermen.

Spoiler: Creatures without either PET/PET_EXOTIC or PETVALUE (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Creatures with PET/PET_EXOTIC, but missing PETVALUE (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Creatures with PETVALUE, but missing PET/PET_EXOTIC (click to show/hide)
« Last Edit: March 24, 2014, 01:40:45 am by Vattic »
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Re: [REFERENCE] Unbreedable Creatures List - missing CHILD tags, missing sex castes
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2014, 07:54:25 pm »
Extremely helpful lists. Thank you.

So... has anyone begun the task of fixing all the missing tags? I would hate to duplicate the efforts.  :-\
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Re: [REFERENCE] Unbreedable Creatures List - missing CHILD tags, missing sex castes
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2014, 10:19:08 am »
That's awesome, Vattic, thank you.
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http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=136374.0

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Re: [REFERENCE] Unbreedable Creatures List - missing CHILD tags, missing sex castes
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2014, 04:06:14 pm »
This http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8488 may be of interest to you.
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Re: [REFERENCE] Creature Errors - Starvation, immortals, unbreedables, pet problems
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2014, 11:05:49 am »
I have updated the OP with more information/errors.
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[REFERENCE]Creature Errors - Starvation, immortals, unbreedables, pet problems:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=136374.0

My unofficial Modest Mod update:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105871.msg5021367#msg5021367