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Current one, unchanged.

+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.

Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.

I don't know but I want to see the results.

[Solymr]

If they get only range 2, should they keep the double attacks?

[Xanmyral]

I say yes personally. It's the main point of the weapon after all. If its disliked, have it double like normal instead of two right off the bat.

[Haspen]

If they get only range 2, should they keep the double attacks?

Sure! Toss two at your enemy and then 'CHARGE FOR THE GLORY OF MOTHERLAND'

[Blade Master Model 42]

I like the 2 only range for the pilum.

[Rolepgeek]

I think in melee, you'd just pull out a new one.

Maybe they don't get double attacks in melee? I dunno.

[Haspen]

I think in melee, you'd just pull out a new one.

Maybe they don't get double attacks in melee? I dunno.

Do you want to argue why you can use pilums in melee but not bows?

We shouldn't overcomplicate simple game things.

[Rolepgeek]

I'm kinda opposed to it because it seems wrong somehow that a melee weapon should have a 2-only range. I suppose it could make sense, and there are always Javelins...

Would Soliferrum keep 1-2 range? I think it should.

[Xanmyral]

I agree with Haspen here, the goal with all balances and tweaks should be to add as little complexity as possible and still arrive at what you want.

As for problems with it, I'd like to point out that there is a sword that has a 1-2 range. You don't throw it nor is it magical. Bows have a range of two. Draw your own assumptions as to how long the sword is.

[Solymr]

Poll added.

[Gamerboy4life]

I agree with Haspen here, the goal with all balances and tweaks should be to add as little complexity as possible and still arrive at what you want.

As for problems with it, I'd like to point out that there is a sword that has a 1-2 range. You don't throw it nor is it magical. Bows have a range of two. Draw your own assumptions as to how long the sword is.

A sword with a 1-2 range?


Is there a lance with the same thing? Because a lance that could actually keep enemies at bay would be pretty neat.

[Xanmyral]

Nah. You'd think there'd be like, a pike or something. But nah.

Sword is under crush,  the claymore I think.

As for the knight weapon, I'm good with it keeping 1-2 range.

[Solymr]

There's also, you know, the rest of the spear subcategory that aren't pilums.

[Xanmyral]

Yah, but Gamer wasn't meaning thrown weapons. Serves the same purpose crunch wise, but you miss the fluff that endears one so.

[Solymr]

A throwing weapon and a melee weapon are functionally the same if they have 1-2 range :V
I think the point of claymore is to have a ranged sword that wasn't magical.

Cause throwing your sword never works.

[Rolepgeek]

I think the claymore is kinda silly.

I also think Sidearms are kinda silly as is. I feel like maybe they should almost all have 1-2 range to be a sword version of javelins so they're useful in ways other than Assassins giggling at The Hidden Blade. Or just have higher crit rates all around.