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Current one, unchanged.

+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.

Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.

I don't know but I want to see the results.

[Rolepgeek]

IDEA

How about this for Stone: Attacks autohit, crit rates are doubled(not bonused, just doubled), and if you get critted, you are instantly taken to 0 health. Otherwise, you don't take any damage from anything. And of course, you can't move or act.

[SeriousConcentrate]

Rolep, I like you, but that idea is dumb. :| I get the feeling that Stone is going to be a status effect largely in the hands of the GMs (most status effects are) and they don't need yet another way to stack the deck in their favor.

[Haspen]

For me Stone should be, dunno 'end-game' paralysis like in Thracia 776, where you can rescue some girls by de-stoning them in the last chapter, or something like that

Besides that, I think Sleep+Paralyze is enough...

Also I think you guys should re-classify ailment-healing staves. Currently you have D staff that heals Sleep (easy) and Berserk (hard) status, and then you get even weirder combinations. Shouldn't 'higher rank = more dangerous ailments removed'?

[Solymr]

>Wake up
>Vote is tied
>FFS guys

Anyways Haspen is right. Since people thought removing someone from the field was op why not switch Stone for something like X-Zone: remove the enemy completely from the field for x turns.

[Haspen]

You cray :V!

* Haspen wholeheartedly approves.

[Solymr]

Ok I think we're doing this wrong so this is how we're gonna do it: everyone post your variation of this table and then we put them to vote.

Name	Effect	Duration	Rank
Poison	Deals 1-5 damage.	5 turns	(E) staff; (D) dance
Sleep	Can't move or act. Attacks are autohits.	3 turns or until first hit	(E) staff
Silence	Can't cast magic or use staves.	3 turns	(C) staff
Paralyze	Can't move or act. Attacks are autohits.	3 turns	(C) staff; (D) dance
Berserk	Automatically attacks closest enemy. If no enemies in range attacks closest ally. If no one in range moves towards closest unit.	3 turns	(B) staff
X-Zone (in place of Stone)	Target is completely removed from the battlezone for the duration.	3 turns	(B) staff
Fear	Can't initiate combat. Must move away from enemies. If defensive terrain is in range must go towards it. ?	3 turns	(B) dance

[Blade Master Model 42]

Copied wholesale from 1.22, then modified in an opinionated fashion by me. What do you guys think? I also thought of a way to improve the S rank staves so they aren't shit. Also improved Valkyrie's Arrival slightly.


(Ailments )------.----------.-----.---.--------------------. |
(Name | Type ( ) | Wt | Ql | Range ) |
>--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
|Sleep | Ailm (E) | 5 | 20 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
|20 hit. Causes Sleep status for 3 turns. Sleeped target cannot move or act and has their evade reduced to 0. Being struck by an attack immediately removes sleep.| |
>--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
|Poison | Ailm (E) | 4 | 20 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
40 hit. Causes Poison for 4 turns. Poisoned Targets take 1-5 damage at the beginning of their turn.| |
>--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
|Slow | Ailm (D) | 7 | 15 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
|20 hit. Reduces EVA by 20 for 3 turns. Does not stack | |
>--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
|Befuddled | Ailm (D) | 6 | 15 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
|20 hit. Reduces HIT by 20 for 3 turns. Does not stack | |
>--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
|Silence | Ailm (C) | 7 | 20 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
|30 hit. Causes Silence for 3 turns. Silenced characters cannot use Tomes or Staves, and cannot speak. | |
>--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
|Addle | Ailm (C) | 8 | 20 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
| |15 hit. Causes Addled for 3 turns. Addled characters cannot use lances, bows, axes or swords. | |
| >--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
| |Berserk | Ailm (B) | 10 | 10 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
| |10 hit. Causes Berserk for 3 turns. Berserked characters attack the nearest enemy unit available at the beginning of their phase. If no enemy units are in range, the unit will attack the closest allied unit in range. If no units are in range, the character will move toward the nearest unit, with priority for enemy units.| |
| >--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
| |Paralyze | Ailm (B) | 8 | 20| 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
| |15 hit. Causes Paralysis for 3 turns. Paralyzed characters cannot move or act. | |
| >--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
| |Misfortune | Ailm (A) | 11 | 5 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
| |25 hit. Reduces Critical to 0 for 3 turns. | |
| >--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
| |Forget | Ailm (A) | 12 | 5 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
| |25 hit. Reduces MAG by 5 for 3 turns. Does not stack | |
| >--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
| |Weakness | Ailm (S) | 16 | 5 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
| |15 hit. Reduces STR and DEF by 10 for 3 turns. Does not stack | |
| >--------------+----------+----+----+--------------------< |
| |Turncoat | Ailm (S) | 18 | 5 | 1 - 1/2 MAG | |
| |10 hit. Causes Turncoat for 3 turns. At the beginning of their phase, characters afflicted with Turncoat attack the nearest allied unit. If no allied units are in range, the unit will move toward the nearest allied unit. |

Edit: Working on Dances now.

Dances )-----------.----------.----.----.------------------ |
 (Name | Type ( ) | Wt | Ql | ) |
 >-----------------+----------+----+----+-----------------< |
 |Surprising Shimmy | Danc (E) | 3 | 20 | | |
70 hit. Causes -15 to Hit for 3 turns. | |
 >-----------------+----------+----+----+-----------------< |
|Subtle Jynx | Danc (E) | 4 | 20 | | |
70 hit. Causes -10 Critical for 3 turns| |
>-----------------+----------+----+----+-----------------< |
|Enamouring Step | Danc (D) | 5 | 20 | | |
20 hit. Causes Paralyse for 3 turns.| |
>----------------------------+----+----+-----------------< |
 |Gypsy Lure | Danc (D) | 4 | 20 | | |
50 hit. Causes Poison for 4 turns.| |
 >----------------------------+----+----+-----------------< |
 |Petrifying Twist | Danc (C) | 8 | 15 | | | |
70 hit. MOV is reduced to 0 for 3 turns.| |
 >----------------------------+----+----+-----------------< |
|Enchanting Tango | Danc (C) | 6 | 15 | | |
70 hit. Causes -15 to Evade for 3 turns.| |
| >----------------------------+----+----+-----------------< |
| |Vixen's Waltz | Danc (B) | 7 | 15 | | |
20 hit. Causes Fear for 3 turns. Characters afflicted with Fear cannot initiate battle, and must spend their MOV seeking defensive terrain if they aren't already on it.
| >----------------------------+----+----+-----------------< |
| |Disarming Swing | Danc (B) | 8 | 15 | | |
70 hit. Causes -5 STR and MAG for 3 turns. | |
| >----------------------------+----+----+-----------------< |
| |Sickening Shuffle | Danc (A) | 10 | 15 | | |
20 hit. Causes Poison and Paralyse. Roll separately | |
| >----------------------------+----+----+-----------------< |
70 hit. Causes -5 DEF and RES | |
| >----------------------------+----+----+-----------------< |
| |Despair March | Danc (S) | 15 | 5 | | |
30 hit. Cancels target's next turn | |
| |Does not effect certain enemies | |
| >----------------------------+----+----+-----------------< |
| |Valkyrie's Arrival| Danc (S) | 14 | 5 | | |
70 hit. Causes -5 Attack Speed and Damage| |
| `-----------------'----------'----'----'-----------------'

[Solymr]

I like it. Shall we put it to vote?

[Blade Master Model 42]

Works for me.

[Shoruke]

Meanwhile, dat placehol-derp vote. Solly plz :V

[Solymr]

Oh right I forgot.
Finals does this to you. Three hour long finals just leave you retarded for the day.

[Solymr]

I just noticed I didn't put the both option so I'll reset the poll. I also noticed Forget is quite useless when you can silence a mage.

[Solymr]

Note about the third option: if Paralyze gets turned into Addle, do you mind Stone turning into Paralyze for balance?

[Haspen]

* Haspen inserts combo-breaker so Solymr doesn't feel guilty about possible quadruple-post

[Blade Master Model 42]

Note about the third option: if Paralyze gets turned into Addle, do you mind Stone turning into Paralyze for balance?

That's gonna need a separate poll.