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Author Topic: Civilization Beyond Earth - A spiritual successor to Alpha Centauri by Firaxis  (Read 51922 times)

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Except you can win by capturing the capital of someone who has launched a spaceship (because gameplay), or by launching a spaceship which is so much faster that it gets there before theirs does (which was certainly possible enough that I did it a few times in Civ II, at least).

(Personally, I played many more games of Civ II than of Civ IV or V.)
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Except you can win by capturing the capital of someone who has launched a spaceship (because gameplay), or by launching a spaceship which is so much faster that it gets there before theirs does (which was certainly possible enough that I did it a few times in Civ II, at least).

(Personally, I played many more games of Civ II than of Civ IV or V.)
Oh, this is Civ II. Not played it, so I can't comment.
Yes those mechanics do indeed sound contrived in their relation to narrative.
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The thing is that on latter games the spaceship victory is instantaneous. In Civ II you have to actually wait for the ship to get there and survive. You had this percentage of success depending on how much complete the spaceship was, it wasn't required to complete the 100% of it, if memory serves you only needed one piece of everything and you could launch, but there was the risk of the ship crashing or never getting there because of your slack (or hurry), dunno if you could then start another ship over again, never got the bad luck of my ship not getting there.

Still you had to wait for it to reach Alpha Centaury, in the mean time you could be defeated in any other way (conquest, other spaceship getting first).

EDIT: Found on this thread that actually is impossible to have a failure, once you launch your ship it will be 100% safe to reach Alpha Centaury. The success rate only determined how many points did you get from it...
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My ship exploded midflight, but all the shrapnel totally landed on Alpha Centauri before anyone else did.  Bow before me world leaders!

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EDIT: Found on this thread that actually is impossible to have a failure, once you launch your ship it will be 100% safe to reach Alpha Centauri. The success rate only determined how many points did you get from it...

My ship exploded midflight, but all the shrapnel totally landed on Alpha Centauri before anyone else did.  Bow before me world leaders!
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My ship exploded midflight, but all the shrapnel totally landed on Alpha Centauri before anyone else did.  Bow before me world leaders!
Alpha Centauri gets an interstellar shotgun blast to the face.
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I'm curious as to how a tank would evolve. Would it climb out of the primordial ooze wiggling it's track-nubs, feeding on smaller jeeps before crawling onto the shore having evolved proper treds?
My ship exploded midflight, but all the shrapnel totally landed on Alpha Centauri before anyone else did.  Bow before me world leaders!

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My ship exploded midflight, but all the shrapnel totally landed on Alpha Centauri before anyone else did.  Bow before me world leaders!
Alpha Centauri gets an interstellar shotgun blast to the face.
Suck it, Planet!
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Right, the only real reason to add more non-engine/fuel pieces was for score: There was no actual success chance as far as I remember. It would always arrive if nobody took your capital.
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In Civ IV: BTS you had to wait. You had 5 hull pieces (at least one was REQUIRED), the life support and such, then the boosters and engines, which were 'the more you have the faster you go'
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Remember that Civilization is a game where you try to become the greatest civilization in all history.

As soon as you achieve that... You win.

Civilization beyond earth though... No.
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EDIT: Found on this thread that actually is impossible to have a failure, once you launch your ship it will be 100% safe to reach Alpha Centauri. The success rate only determined how many points did you get from it...

My ship exploded midflight, but all the shrapnel totally landed on Alpha Centauri before anyone else did.  Bow before me world leaders!
This is actually the plot of Alpha centauri, your ship explodes but the shrapnel contains enough politics and drama to infect the planet anyway.
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To be fair, it exploded because of that politics and drama, and not because you were a cheap world leader and thought you could launch it with one less engine component.
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Also, Captain Garland got assassinated. It's funny, the game only mentions him a couple of times but I always empathized with the guy a lot. Imagine having to Captain the AC faction leaders...
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Can I bother you guys again with some testing for whoever is up for it? Still working on that mod. I more or less finished the new tech web, improvements and buildings. Still need to work on the wonders, building perks, virtues and affinity boni. I could really use some feedback.
Oops forgot, currently only supported in english.
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Why not "release" through Steam Workshop? You may get more people trying things and feedback than just from us.

Although I can understand you might want alpha guinea pigs before doing a public release (even if you tag it publicly as WIP/alpha).
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Also, Captain Garland got assassinated. It's funny, the game only mentions him a couple of times but I always empathized with the guy a lot. Imagine having to Captain the AC faction leaders...
Well the faction leaders can generally get on okay as long as they're not specialising in ideology, so it's probable that he simply convinced all the factions (as they existed anyway. I don't believe it was as concrete as after he was assassinated, more loose allegiance to an ideal that people would have. Certainly not any sort of rigid structure like the pseudo-national factions down on Planet.) of their ability to cooperate without compromising the integrity of their ideals.
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