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[itisnotlogical]

Am I the only one who's okay with Sonic having no coherent direction whatsoever? Think how boring our world would be if we didn't have things like Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic 06 or Sonic Boom. At this point, the franchise is like the Joker to Mario's Batman.

[Iduno]

v=FvvZaBf9QQI&feature=youtu.be]trailer[/url] just came out and its full of ehhhh^hhhhh

What did I just watch, and how do I unwatch it?

It was inevitable.

Also holy shit, that is one disturbing design.

So when you refer to disturbing Sonic the Hedgehog videos, you need to be more specific, because it's a very high bar to clear. We talking mpreg, vore, guro?

[itisnotlogical]

So far the only criticism I'm hearing of the Sonic movie (besides Sonic is ugly, which okay fair) is "it's not like the games." To me this raises a question: which game do people want it to be like? The Genesis games where everybody's mute and lives in a psychadelic checkerboard land? Chaotix's semi-cyberpunk world? Shadow "Sonic with guns" the Hedgehog? The Adventure series where Sonic lives in a city with humans and goes to space, Eggman blows up the moon and butt rock is always playing? Sonic 06's ancient kingdoms, time travel and sun gods? The one where he's a kindergarten teacher? Sonic Boom? That's not including the comics and cartoons, which can include Sonic as a rebel a la Star Wars, a goofy episodic hero versus Eggman's two incompetent robot henchmen, or fronting a rock band in Sonic Underground.

Sonic has never had a consistent setting, design or characterization, I'm not sure why people are taking yet another complete reboot as some shock or betrayal.

[Loud Whispers]

Yeah, I was just thinking that. Something about the way they sugarcoat things, or politely avoid mentioning them wherever possible. Coupled with British formality in general, it makes the realities all the more horrifying.

'Oh, the soulless bureaucratic system has arbitrarily robbed me of a few essential parts of my humanity (and it might be harvesting my organs), but the important thing is that we have managed to preserve our queueing culture. And besides, I wouldn't want to make a fuss.'

Professionalism in lieu of obvious despair makes for a funny Summer's day

[Enemy post]

So far the only criticism I'm hearing of the Sonic movie (besides Sonic is ugly, which okay fair) is "it's not like the games." To me this raises a question: which game do people want it to be like? The Genesis games where everybody's mute and lives in a psychadelic checkerboard land? Chaotix's semi-cyberpunk world? Shadow "Sonic with guns" the Hedgehog? The Adventure series where Sonic lives in a city with humans and goes to space, Eggman blows up the moon and butt rock is always playing? Sonic 06's ancient kingdoms, time travel and sun gods? The one where he's a kindergarten teacher? Sonic Boom? That's not including the comics and cartoons, which can include Sonic as a rebel a la Star Wars, a goofy episodic hero versus Eggman's two incompetent robot henchmen, or fronting a rock band in Sonic Underground.

Sonic has never had a consistent setting, design or characterization, I'm not sure why people are taking yet another complete reboot as some shock or betrayal.

Personally, I was hoping for a faithful adaptation of the "Coldsteel the hedgeheg" canon.

[Il Palazzo]

Professionalism in lieu of obvious despair makes for a funny Summer's day

Please, don't mention the Event. Remain indoors.

[Kagus]

https://www.polygon.com/2019/5/2/18527449/sonic-the-hedgehog-movie-design-change-director

Director of the Sonic movie has released a statement saying that they're going to redesign the character because the internet made so much of a fuss.


I'm a bit hurt, honestly... I was looking forward to a feature-length film with something that horrendously bad the whole way through. Also this is either going to be absolute hell on everyone involved in making the movie, or it's all a big conspiracy to exploit viral marketing and they had a "better" model all along.

[scriver]

You have to give it to them though. That's some masterful viral marketing marketeering.

[nenjin]

I suspect it was actually studio/producer interference saying "Sonic needs to look relatable to children, so make him look like a freak." The internet making its opinion known probably allowed the director to say "let's roll it back to what we actually were going to do."

What gets me though is the Nike shoes. Other than his quills and eyes, I think his shoes are the most iconic part of his look. So that bit of product placement really, really stuck out to me.

[itisnotlogical]

It's not like there isn't precedent. I want to say there have been other instances of brand deals in Sonic games besides the shoes, but I'm not sure.

[Il Palazzo]

And on the topic of actual films...
There's this recent release called High Life. It's like Silent Running by the way of Tarkovsky's Solaris. Level of recommendation depends on how much one liked the latter.

[SalmonGod]

Spoiler: Endgame SPOILERS (click to show/hide)

I think the Black Widow/Hawkeye thing was believable.  They had a strong non-romantic bond.  It's totally possible for friends, especially friends who have been through a lot of shit together, to love each other more than their spouses/family/whatever.  Plus, Hawkeye's family was dead during that scene.  So at that point in time, Black Widow was probably the greatest loss he could suffer.

The cap thing.... yeah.... it bent their own rules more than a little.  But it's forgive-able.  They could have done it a different way, but it gave them a means to pass the shield on to the new Captain America.

Tony's use of the stones.... yeah.... but upping a character's resilience to stuff like that for their final noble sacrifice is tradition for this type of story.  So whatevs.

Overall, the film didn't disappoint.  I think it did justice to all the build-up and hype.

My only nitpicks I can think of right now:

• Maybe I missed it, but I feel like there should have been some significant point of sacrifice or growth where Cap became worthy of Mjolnir.  It was a really cool moment, but it would have been much cooler if you knew how he earned it... besides just being ultimate good guy Cap, which he always was but didn't enable him to wield it before.
• Thanos..... the Thanos they fought in the first film showed respect for his rivals, and pursued his goal with a strong will but you could see reluctance in him too.  There were moments where it seemed like he felt tough-love compassion for the people he was fighting against.  He thought he knew what was best for them, but sympathized with their passion in opposing him.  His past personality was much more brazenly arrogant and sadistic.  Which is fine.  He could have grown in those between years.  It just felt whiplashy.  I feel like that, and explaining his ridiculous strength, deserved more development.  I really feel like we deserved to know why the fuck he alone among all of his race is so mighty and nigh indestructible.  I'm thinking Asgardian history includes them beating the titans in warfare, right?

[TamerVirus]

Saw a bunch of stuff recently

Venom: Like watching Schumacher's Batman & Robin. Dumb schlock that manages to be both amusing and awful at the same time. The most I remember is Tom Hardy jumping into a lobster tank because he's hungry. PG-13's a waste on this one. A passable way to spend some hours in a plane

Into The Spiderverse: Knocked it out of the park with the look and aesthetic. Really nice to see a different take on Spider-man in feature length. Lots of fun. It referenced the Spider-mobile so its gets a pile of bonus points.  An even better way to spend some hours in a plane

Free Solo: Rock climbing is scary

Bronson: A stylized retelling of the life of UK's most violent prisoner. A tad bit edgy and more Tom Hardy than I bargained for.

The Lobster: Darkly comedic commentary on modern day relationships. Very weird, but also deeply prophetic. I, too, am destined to be a loner masturbating alone in the woods or transmogrified into dog against my will

[Castlecliff]

Endgame writing sucked. Ohhh pretty lights

[Cthulhu]

Endgame was good.  Last sequence my eyes glazed over but aside from the complete lack of a fuck given to dealing with captain marvel (she gets a poochie went back to his hime planet sequence and something ten minutes in isnt a spoiler) i dont see anything about the writing that sucked

my biggest complaint is they should've just taken the second movie (endgame is three one hour movies) and made it a two hour feature, it's the best and most compelling

As for sonic, we should encourage studios to sink millions into huge last minute changes on movies that nobody with a fucking brain could ever imagine would succeed even at their original budget.  The movie industry must be destroyed.  Every movie exec working in a toll booth by Christmas