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Reelya

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« Reply #705 on: December 16, 2019, 11:10:42 am »

No mass appeal? it was the 6th highest grossing film in the 1980s. It clearly had appeal, of the mass variety. Considering that of the 5 things that grossed more than that film in the 80s, one was E.T, two were Star Wars films, and one was the first Indiana Jones film, Ghostbusters was about "mass" as a movie can get.
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« Reply #706 on: December 16, 2019, 11:39:09 am »

All I want to know is what kind of film heavily intoxicated children who watch MST3K would want to watch.
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« Reply #707 on: December 16, 2019, 11:45:01 am »

All I want to know is what kind of film heavily intoxicated children who watch MST3K would want to watch.

Jack Frost.
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« Reply #708 on: December 16, 2019, 11:56:32 am »

That's confusing, they made Jack Frost movies in both 1997 and 1998. One is a feel-good christmas movie and the other one is Jack Frost.

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« Reply #709 on: December 16, 2019, 02:14:06 pm »

And then you flip the tapes, and voila! Lifetime psychological scars for the kids that rented a nice Christmas movie.   


I'm not sure what I'm more shocked by: someone daring to disrespect the mighty Ghostbusters, or someone describing the new Bladrunner as "why bother". I mean, I haven't actually seen it yet, but I assume it's at least decent, considering it has both the original lead (and presumably continues the story) as well as Ryan freakin' Gosling.   
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« Reply #710 on: December 16, 2019, 02:20:21 pm »

or someone describing the new Bladrunner as "why bother". I mean, I haven't actually seen it yet, but I assume it's at least decent, considering it has both the original lead (and presumably continues the story) as well as Ryan freakin' Gosling.   
It's more than decent. But I don't see anyone describing it in those terms here.
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« Reply #711 on: December 16, 2019, 09:02:36 pm »

I really liked Blade Runner 2049.  Definitely not mass appeal though.  The original wasn't either.
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« Reply #712 on: December 17, 2019, 01:00:31 am »

While I appreciated the movie, and what it represented, the world bladerunner is set in is very inefficient.

slave labor never has been and never will be fiscally responsible, even with beings designed to be obsequiously compliant and disposable.

especially for the purposes cited by the franchise; space colonization.  The resources to send a human to a colony site, and to send a replicant to a colony site, are identical.  The replicant needs food, air, water, et... and also needs humans to administer their mental health checks. 

It IS however, the kind of "solution" I could see happening with large numbers of real humans leaving the planet, and with powerful corporations looking for the next evolution of "human resources" in the resulting labor and consumer shortages.  [not enough labor or customers? well, make more! this option produces both, AND you dont have to treat them like people!]  It would go a long way towards explaining the situation with the dying environment, the "fuck no, we wont fix it." mentality of the world powers, and why dystopian lifestyles dominate.  It also explains the systemic racisim against replicants {humans LOVE having their innate sense of superiority stroked, even when it's a damned lie. Especially when psycopathic corporate types dominate the human popultion because everyone else left.}

Maybe I just get something different from that series of movies than other people... I dunno.  Just to me, you have to explain why there are no replicant rights movements, et al.  "everyone with a conscience left the dying planet" works, but seems too convenient to me.  especially with environments like that scrapyard-orphanage.  The dominance and "control" are paper thin, given the systemic resource shortages apparent.  The regime is poised to collapse spectacularly from systemic mismanagement.

I want to see a "post humanity" bladerunner, where only replicants remain.  To me, that's the final stage of the decay humans caused, and replicants making more replicants for the purposes of fixing a dead planet sounds hopeful in comparison.  It allows the replicants to explore their repressed humanity without human oppression as well.  sadly, such a plot would lack mass market appeal I think.
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« Reply #713 on: December 17, 2019, 07:25:08 pm »

Maybe I just get something different from that series of movies than other people... I dunno.  Just to me, you have to explain why there are no replicant rights movements, et al.
Wasn't the entire point of having blade runners run around 'retiring' replicants so that any replicant who got too much self awareness to even conceptualize the need for rights will all be whacked? Or are you asking why other humans didn't advocate for replicant rights, because 2049 explicitly shows that there's an underground replicant freedom movement going on.
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« Reply #714 on: December 18, 2019, 08:02:29 am »

Also new Star Wars reviews are coming out of the woodwork...and it’s not looking so good.
Grab the popcorn, because that means INTERNET DRAMA!
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« Reply #715 on: December 18, 2019, 09:40:37 am »

Can't say I'm super surprised, but I'll withhold judgment until I actually watch the movie.  Supposedly they had to reshoot one of the scenes near the end of the movie because the prescreen audience started laughing at the fight with Palpatine or something.  That's not a good indicator.
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« Reply #716 on: December 18, 2019, 04:52:30 pm »

So, The Irishman.

It seems like a good movie, but the CGI and some of the acting just isn't there. The CGI isn't good enough quality to enter the uncanny valley (they tried to make everyone from Casino look to be in their 30's). I actually started laughing at Deniro kicking 3" away from the guy at the market. Like Middle School drama club level shit there.

Other than that, it's a good movie so far. I'm liking this Hoffa character, and hope things work out for him.
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« Reply #717 on: December 19, 2019, 08:52:34 am »

I'm sure I've mentioned this at least once or twice before, but Safety Not Guaranteed is one of my favourite films.
That's admittedly a very, very broad category, but I've probably re-watched it more times than anything else I've seen as an adult. At least... six or so times, I'd say? And that number continues to increase, with me coercing more folks into watching it with me.

So far I haven't struck anyone who hasn't appreciated it.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go try and get The Feels under control so that I can form thoughts other than... well, until I can form coherent thoughts again. Hell, I can't even form this post coherently right now. :P
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« Reply #718 on: December 19, 2019, 08:57:57 am »

I'm going to make you angry by saying I found it nice, but forgettable. I think the ending ruined it for me.
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« Reply #719 on: December 19, 2019, 09:10:44 am »

I'll fight you, you goddamn anti-intellectual. Go watch it again and appreciate it this time. >:(   

Edit: also, I loved the ending. I'm kinda curious as to what you disliked about it.
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