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Author Topic: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge  (Read 520573 times)

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10230 on: August 07, 2015, 08:36:55 pm »

HOLY FUCKING MINMAX

but for some actual criticism, Jade will be literally useless. His abilities do nothing to help the team; the best thing he can do is soak up an attack if one happens to hit him. While he has high health, he can't do much with it.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10231 on: August 07, 2015, 09:18:01 pm »

Give him a taunt/draw fire ability as a tiered spell/SP move.

Otherwise, it looks fine. SubGMs may voice their complaints.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10232 on: August 07, 2015, 09:23:08 pm »

i'd love to throw a finger of death at him

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10233 on: August 07, 2015, 09:32:05 pm »

HOLY FUCKING MINMAX

but for some actual criticism, Jade will be literally useless. His abilities do nothing to help the team; the best thing he can do is soak up an attack if one happens to hit him. While he has high health, he can't do much with it.
You're assuming function was a goal. It was not.

Give him a taunt/draw fire ability as a tiered spell/SP move.

Otherwise, it looks fine. SubGMs may voice their complaints.

I don't really see any dragon-like ability that has such a function. The closest I can get is challenging people, but he can do that without resorting to magic.
Also, he's still rather new to the curse, hence the lack of capability.
He's supposed to suck, my characters always do.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10234 on: August 07, 2015, 10:08:04 pm »

Uh, it's more obvious than my lack of tact:

A roar ability.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10235 on: August 08, 2015, 07:50:15 am »

Uh, it's more obvious than my lack of tact:

A roar ability.
That would work... if it wasn't for one thing.
Jade's possessed by a Blue Pseudo-Dragon, often called the Mute Pseudo-Dragon, because they have no breath attack and aren't all that loud.
The thing is, lightning breath is way too powerful, so I decided the Blue Pseudo-Dragons just don't get a breath attack at all.
I kinda decided this while making the character, I just didn't think it important enough to tell.

If Jade wants to taunt, he could just taunt.

Besides, Jade already has regeneration, which is OP as f***, letting him heal things he shouldn't.
I'm considering making it 2d20 (manacost * d20) damage for regeneration (for both success and failure), as it's currently not harmful enough (It can't even deal more than 10% damage).
And making the Dragon Eye cause d20 damage upon use, and 4d20 (manacost * d20) upon failure.
Since mutations tend to f*** up your body, hard.

Not to mention, Jade can't even use Dragon Eye, his magic stat is too low (he needs 6, he has 2).
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10236 on: August 08, 2015, 07:52:15 am »

Way too powerful for the character you want, you mean. Because lightning breath would frankly probably be weaker than some attack the other characters have.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10237 on: August 08, 2015, 07:58:23 am »

Way too powerful for the character you want, you mean. Because lightning breath would frankly probably be weaker than some attack the other characters have.
If the electricity is powerful enough to conduct through air, what do you think will happen when it hits people?
Pretty much instant death.
Yeah, no, too powerful for anyone.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10238 on: August 08, 2015, 08:00:31 am »

A lot of these characters have powers that should cause instant death. It would probably kill a normal human instantly, yes... but we are pretty much never fighting normal humans.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10239 on: August 08, 2015, 08:05:15 am »

does it matter, all he has is health. His other stats are so low, he simply will never, ever, at all, be relevant in any battle.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10240 on: August 08, 2015, 08:06:03 am »

The average human has 9-21 health, they're not that strong.

Also, numbers take precedence over logic here. If you're firing lightning bolts like Thor on a bender but your magic is 5, be prepared to be disappointed. With skills minmaxed like that, you won't be doing much, if any DPS.

does it matter, all he has is health. His other stats are so low, he simply will never, ever, at all, be relevant in any battle.

hence taunt ability

it's so good it's bad
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10241 on: August 08, 2015, 08:07:00 am »

Really, all he is somewhat good for is tanking, with all that health, and even that is minimal due to the low defense and resistance stats.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10242 on: August 08, 2015, 08:35:25 am »

I still think giving him a taunt makes no sense.
He's not the guy to taunt, and even if he was, why would it be an ability?
Anyone can taunt.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10243 on: August 08, 2015, 08:37:27 am »

The taunt ability, in this case, is doing it in such a way that the enemy is forced to come after you.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge
« Reply #10244 on: August 08, 2015, 08:43:31 am »

ie every MMO tank's main ability since the dawn of time
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