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Author Topic: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.  (Read 954578 times)

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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: A comparative biology of Beastmen.
« Reply #10395 on: May 25, 2018, 12:34:29 pm »

Mork. The Emperor is a scientist and a psyker.
And so the Emperor with his 20 18 Warbosses set out on the great WAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH across the stars to krump all the xenos

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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: A comparative biology of Beastmen.
« Reply #10396 on: May 25, 2018, 01:30:39 pm »

Suffer the xenos not to live, ya grot.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: A comparative biology of Beastmen.
« Reply #10397 on: May 25, 2018, 06:07:22 pm »

The waaaaaaagh emperor of orkiest kind
Would the Emperor represent Gork or Mork
Mork. The Emperor is a scientist and a psyker.
Gork. The Emperor is a warrior and a leader.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: A comparative biology of Beastmen.
« Reply #10398 on: May 25, 2018, 06:42:15 pm »

The waaaaaaagh emperor of orkiest kind
Would the Emperor represent Gork or Mork
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Gork. The Emperor is a warrior and a leader.
Oi! Fite me ya dumb Gorker! Everyone knowz dat the Emprah is Mork!
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: A comparative biology of Beastmen.
« Reply #10399 on: May 25, 2018, 07:09:46 pm »

The GMork Emperor of Orkind

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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: A comparative biology of Beastmen.
« Reply #10400 on: May 26, 2018, 04:14:12 am »

is e cunning but deadly, or deadly but cunning, eh?
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Baby's first Exterminatus.
« Reply #10401 on: May 26, 2018, 10:36:03 am »

Iz says e's cunnin' but deadly. Just look ow he crumps sum gitz loik a weird boy.

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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Baby's first Exterminatus.
« Reply #10402 on: May 26, 2018, 10:53:49 am »

Juz look at how 'im n them geneboyz of 'is use right proper choppas.  Gets a whole army o grots behind 'im too.  E's deadly -but cunnin'-. Ya gots less sense then the back end of a squig on arse-kick day ifin you feelz like 'es not.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Baby's first Exterminatus.
« Reply #10403 on: May 26, 2018, 05:33:29 pm »

I says it don't matter, 'cause if you've gotten enuff deadly in ya system, the cunnin' don't mean a thing cause you'll just kill all the gitz whose tryin' ta outfink ya. Ans if youuse says tha empora ain't strong enuff for that, I'll crump ya, you heretic.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Baby's first Exterminatus.
« Reply #10404 on: May 26, 2018, 06:06:00 pm »

This is making me realize there's a real lack of fiction from the Orks' point of view in 40k aside from Red Sun Rising, which is a shame; their cheerful bloodlust is terrifying enough to deserve a more thorough treatment.

Failing that, just having a bunch of old skarboyz serve as the Greek chorus to your standard Ork war would be chillingly hilarious.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Baby's first Exterminatus.
« Reply #10405 on: May 26, 2018, 06:30:37 pm »

Ork fiction in the early codices is just flat out great. There was a real sense of being orky without taking itself too seriously.

I feel like that's gone away in later years. Orks have just gotten bigger, spikier, meaner and typecast. You still get gretchin. You still get squiggs. But they are played straight for the most part. You don't often get a glimpse in to the Ork mindset, and when you do (see: Soul Drinkers series, I forget which book), it's just not convincingly written anymore. Like writers feel the need to explain in plain English how Orks reason, instead of just letting them be Orky and spend time writing that instead of translating for them. Orks don't really talk in the books, other than dropping a line or two to the protagonist. They just roar and grunt and fight for the most part. Even Sandy Mitchell, who has written probably the most tongue in cheek series in 40k novels to date, doesn't really let them shine.

It's a pity. I remember grinning like a fool reading the old Fantasy Ork and Goblin army books.

Part of me wants to say "Yeah but can Orks really hold up an entire novel by themselves?" But then I slap myself and say "Yes, they can if someone actually commits to the style of being orky, to the hilt."

No dropping out of character. No spelling out how orks think or explicitly exploring their reasoning, as almost every 40k novel about humans is wont to do. "Inquisitor BlahBlah ordered his Storm Troopers toward the complex. He knew powerful munitions were housed in an underground bunker there, and if the rebels got their hands on them it would tip the battle for ZippidyDo in their favor. He could not let that happen."
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Baby's first Exterminatus.
« Reply #10406 on: May 26, 2018, 11:24:08 pm »

An ork view-point book, with everything spelled the "orky way", and with the author assuming you know at least the basics of orks already (so he doesn't need to explain it) would be awesome!

You would probably need to write all from a first person view point, but that certainly isn't impossible.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Baby's first Exterminatus.
« Reply #10407 on: May 26, 2018, 11:30:32 pm »

An ork view-point book, with everything spelled the "orky way", and with the author assuming you know at least the basics of orks already (so he doesn't need to explain it) would be awesome!

You would probably need to write all from a first person view point, but that certainly isn't impossible.

It'd be a lot easier as a Rashomon-style narrative; that way one could highlight the different ways different types of boyz think,most of which typically go without comment, without explicit "and then the Mekboy did this because, as a Mekboy, he knew how to do mechanical things." Heck, make it actually a whodunit and call it "Wat Da Zog 'Appened 'Ere?"
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Baby's first Exterminatus.
« Reply #10408 on: May 27, 2018, 05:32:22 pm »

A dangerously unconventional book would be intrinsically orky in its conception

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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Baby's first Exterminatus.
« Reply #10409 on: May 27, 2018, 06:34:53 pm »

A Hive Ganger is intrinsically orky by its composition.
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