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Author Topic: First Impressions .40.01 AND BEYOND!  (Read 74244 times)

RealFear

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Re: First Impressions .40.01
« Reply #300 on: July 09, 2014, 07:40:15 pm »

... I believe the reason they miss is because in time they activate, the goblins are already off the trap tile. So they're walking past it faster than it can attack them.

You can observe that effect in adventure mod while trying to attack somebody running away from you.
Makes sense, and lines up with my observations so far.
You can also observe that traps don't trigger after you step off the tile in adventure mode, so no.
I've experience the horror of the new "neck" part and traps in the same event.
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« Reply #301 on: July 09, 2014, 08:01:18 pm »

Alright, here’s a new one from Heavymetal (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140026.0): 7 in-game days after embark, a Flame Haunt turns up in the “missing” list. What?!


I have no combat logs.
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« Reply #302 on: July 09, 2014, 08:24:39 pm »

You are told what kind of masterpiece a dwarf creates.  A dwarf who dreams of creating a masterpiece gets a note on her thoughts saying that this dream has been realized.  However, there is no accompanying happy thought.
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« Reply #303 on: July 09, 2014, 08:31:10 pm »

Reaching one's life goal shouldn't come with a happy thought.  It should come with a sudden existential crisis.
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« Reply #304 on: July 09, 2014, 08:31:28 pm »

Corpse catapults, while do not send the plague to your enemies, but can scare the enemy to death now.
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« Reply #305 on: July 09, 2014, 08:42:51 pm »

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I'm quite annoyed by how farm plots only show stuff available to plant in this season with complete disregard to what season you have selected. Having to wait until the season starts to see what crops I can actually plant is very cumbersome.

Here's hoping it's just a bug and not an intentional change.
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« Reply #306 on: July 09, 2014, 09:00:10 pm »

Dwarfs found the dorms on their second sleep cycle.  So that's good.
War dogs are still failing training with "blah blah blah, piss off, blah" messages every 10 seconds
I have a mystery seed in my stocks and kitchen screens with a blank name and description.
Should I cook it?  Plant it?  It's a mystery.

I keep trying to drop trees on people and buildings and nothing is getting hurt/destroyed.  Sigh.

Oooh, migrants are here.  And I need more booze.  For me, the dwarfs are fine.
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Aristion

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« Reply #307 on: July 09, 2014, 09:03:41 pm »

Great. Now I've got my fliers crashing into stuff now.
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« Reply #308 on: July 09, 2014, 09:14:43 pm »

I installed fortress defense and it was pretty darn entertaining watching the sieges of dark stranglers. First, the moment they saw incoming dwarves they bravely ran away, climbing up trees. Running was extremely wise, because whenever a dwarf punched a strangler the struck part would explode in a mess of gore.

Combat training seems to have significantly changed. I was using a squad of 3 all who embarked with proficient weapon user and proficient discipline and I did my standard small-squad sparring thing, and after a year or so weapon skills had only increased by a few levels, and one had even become a wrestler, because her wrestling and unarmed skills had surpassed her spear dwarf skill. Fighting skill had developed normally. It seems dwarves must be showing a much greater tendency to using non-weapon attacks, especially striking. I don't believe general skill gain was any slower - as mentioned one had become a talented-ish spear user, and an even higher level wrestler, so had gained plenty of skill, just not in stabbing things. Observer skill now appears in the list, and discipline skill trains quite quickly.

It appears that personality has more affect on dwarves. Early on I was surprised to find my miner taking a nice break. I checked his profile and he like totally didn't believe in working hard. His break was both longer and came earlier than other dwarves. I suppose such guys naturally belong in the military, or as haulers. It was okay because later he fell off my magma stack to his death.
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« Reply #309 on: July 09, 2014, 09:43:01 pm »

Discipline skill does get trained in the barracks.  At least by Individual weapon drills, which is what my 2 migrant marksdwarf-recruits are currently doing.  They've both gained Dabbling discipline.
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« Reply #310 on: July 09, 2014, 10:06:03 pm »

A carp fleeing? THIS IS NOT DF ANYMORE

It was fleeing from a giant sponge, the creature which usurped its title of "king of the sea" by virtue of being unkillable prior to pulping. So it's weirdly appropriate IMHO.
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« Reply #311 on: July 09, 2014, 10:18:11 pm »

I like what they have done with hunting: I had no hunters, starting out with. Took me a while to get settled in, and in my haste, I forgot to make a farm. So I recruited my Wood Burner to become a hunter.

A herd of elephants were nearby, and we had tons of arrows. Instead of sneaking up on them like the last version, she SPRINTS AT FULL SPEED at them, and shooting wildly. She managed to hit one, and then she shot it full of arrows until she was out of them, and returned to the fort.

The elephant bled to death shortly after, but now she won't go and return the kill. Nor, will my butcher go and clean the animal. It also shows up as "missing" in the Dead/Missing Tab, even though she's walked over there twice for some strange reason, but still reported as "missing."

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« Reply #312 on: July 10, 2014, 12:17:05 am »

I have to say, my forts are suffering dramatically without Therapist to specialize, dedicate and organize my migrant waves.  That and the FPS performance decrease really starts to crush the game after a few years and 80+ dwarves.
Still, I'm loving the "horrified" mechanics.
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« Reply #313 on: July 10, 2014, 12:44:08 am »

In addition to a pocket world, you could also probably speed up FPS drag in the new version for now by:
1) reducing the number of civs (an option in advanced world gen parameters)
2) Going through some of the tree entries in the raw files and making them have smaller diameters and fewer of them having fruits and flowers and stuff. Hack and slash text. Not sure that's laggy, but I suspect it is to have half the map calculating random fruit drop patterns and then keeping track of it all, etc. every 2 weeks.
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Re: First Impressions .40.01
« Reply #314 on: July 10, 2014, 01:03:30 am »

Messing around in World Gen to replicate one of my favorite worlds in 34.11, a predominantly swamp and lake region for all your tigermen, alligator, hippo and giant cat needs.

Preliminary testing shows that civilizations die out really easily in the first few years if you ramp up savagery and the megabeast and titan numbers. They don't usually survive the first decade in a highly savage world, and those that do don't usually make it past the first century. Probably doesn't help that I ramped up savagery and decreased the number of non-wetlands areas that civilizations might expand to. Will be trying to tinker with the setting to get a perfect balance. Looking forward to get some dragon taming done in this version.

Speaking of dragons...

Apparently, Dragons can be born in world gen now. Though a quick perusal of the raws shows that they still don't have a child:1 or baby:1 tag.




Will be conducting more science over the weekend. Possibly.
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