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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3810 on: August 24, 2019, 09:19:31 pm »
How do you tell how much food you need for a given population? I had some dwarves starting to starve, so I produced a bunch of easy meals that then rotted because there were too many for my population to haul without making specific dwarves just haul food for a few weeks.
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3811 on: August 24, 2019, 10:43:51 pm »
Dwarfs consume more or less 2 meals per season.  Going a little over wouldn't hurt.

Various foods (prepared meals, for example) will rot after a time if not in a stockpile. Once stockpiled no rotting will occur (unprepared fish being the exception).

I would guess that in your case the sudden flurry of cooking led to a backlog of meals in the kitchen that were not being hauled.  Personally I avoid this by microing my cooking but that won't be to everyone's taste.  More haulers also helps... or just do meals in batches making sure there are none left in the kitchen(s) before ordering another round. 

Before too long all my forts end up with more food than I know what to do with. Very occasional vermin theft aside stockpiled food is preserved indefinitely.
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3812 on: August 25, 2019, 02:32:17 am »
Quote from: Schmaven on August 21, 2019, 03:32:23 pm

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Has anyone else had trouble with dwarves getting killed during sparring matches?  I have a bunch of Mace Lords sparring, and one of them just dodged only to end up dead:
The Mace Lord's upper body takes the full force of the impact, but it is deflected by the Mace Lord's *bronze breastplate*!
The Mace Lord's throat takes the full force of the impact and the part splits in gore!
A major artery has been opened by the attack!
The Mace Lord stands up.
The Mace Lord is no longer stunned.
'Soldier' Akrulnosing, Mace Lord has been found dead.

Are your dwarves sparring in an elevated area? I've had dwarves fall a couple of z-levels while sparring on hilly ground outside but they weren't unlucky enough to injure themselves. There is also that bug that makes creatures teleport through walls when dodging which can also lead to the same outcome if your barracks is near a clif.
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Quote from: Jazz Cat on March 28, 2018, 02:32:17 pm
So the conclusion I'm getting here is that we use QSPs because dwarves can't pilot submarines.

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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3813 on: August 25, 2019, 06:25:35 am »
He died on the same level as the barracks, and it's surrounded by double thick walls to prevent dodging through them.  I wonder if the double thick walls are to blame?  Maybe he was going to dodge through a wall, but the second layer stopped it causing the injuries?
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3814 on: August 25, 2019, 06:45:33 am »
I don’t think that the double walls are to blame, at the very least I’v never had anything like that happen when I used them... as it is, it seems like an extremely unlucky sparring injury.
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Quote from: Jazz Cat on March 28, 2018, 02:32:17 pm
So the conclusion I'm getting here is that we use QSPs because dwarves can't pilot submarines.

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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3815 on: August 25, 2019, 08:13:46 am »
"Takes the force of the impact" is used when they collide with a floor or wall - also it's less dodge-through and charge-through  (the log will log charging right before), though I've read reports that wrestlers could also throw people. In any case, there was a case in Constructivory where it went across fourty tiles crossing three walls to fall off on the other side of the tower.
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3816 on: August 25, 2019, 01:09:47 pm »
occurrences from a few of my worlds about wrestlers throwing creatures:

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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3817 on: August 25, 2019, 08:40:32 pm »
Quote from: Schmaven on August 25, 2019, 06:25:35 am
He died on the same level as the barracks...

By that logic, most fatal falls happen in a hospital.

You can use the combat report to 'z'oom on the impact message to see where it actually occurred. 


Quote from: Schmaven on August 25, 2019, 06:25:35 am
...it's surrounded by double thick walls to prevent dodging through them.

Double-thick walls are not sufficient to prevent tumbling-teleportation. Even triple-thick walls might not be sufficient (based on one tumbling dwarf ending up 3 diagonal tiles from the barracks, which is a greater distance than 4 orthogonal tiles).

You can probably just shrink your barracks to provide the necessary buffer space--building thicker walls isn't necessary.
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3818 on: August 27, 2019, 12:29:47 pm »
Does encrusting ammo with gems effect its combat performance in any way? 
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3819 on: August 27, 2019, 12:51:39 pm »
No, decorations as they are, don't change their performance.
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Quote from: Jazz Cat on March 28, 2018, 02:32:17 pm
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3820 on: August 27, 2019, 08:09:36 pm »
Quote from: Loci on August 25, 2019, 08:40:32 pm
Quote from: Schmaven on August 25, 2019, 06:25:35 am
He died on the same level as the barracks...

By that logic, most fatal falls happen in a hospital.

I mean he was thrown in the barracks, his blood is everywhere from the throw to about 16 tiles away where his corpse died the first time.

They must have been trying out a new wrestling move.  It seems very effective whatever it was.
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3821 on: September 02, 2019, 09:30:26 pm »
Quote from: xZippy on August 21, 2019, 07:52:18 am
Has anyone here had a successful fort (at least for a good chunk of time) in an evil biome?

One of my favorite fortress stories is Ravens are Murder by LoudWhispers, a story of conquering the Hidden Fun Stuff through the use of undead ravens. So assuming you're asking about the plausibility of doing well in an evil biome it's quite possible, though I haven't done it myself.
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3822 on: September 07, 2019, 02:38:05 am »
Is there a way (either in vanilla or through DFHack) to know before embarking whether the site will have frequent rains? I'm not sure if I'm just choosing the wrong sites/biome, but in 9/10 forest biomes it seems to rain endlessly.

edit: Suggestions for other types of biomes are welcomed, my main concern is the availability of trees (without having to open the caverns if possible for RP reasons).
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Quote from: Jazz Cat on March 28, 2018, 02:32:17 pm
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3823 on: September 07, 2019, 11:56:54 am »
Quote from: Ulfarr on September 07, 2019, 02:38:05 am
Is there a way (either in vanilla or through DFHack) to know before embarking whether the site will have frequent rains?
I'm not sure if I'm just choosing the wrong sites/biome, but in 9/10 forest biomes it seems to rain endlessly.
edit: Suggestions for other types of biomes are welcomed, my main concern is the availability of trees (without having to open the caverns if possible for RP reasons).
Tropical dry forest might have less rain. https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Biome
It's the high amount of rain, with non-swamplike drainage, that causes a forest, I guess.
*searches low-rain on map*   Also try temperate shrubland, it's got "woodland" amount of trees.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2019, 12:00:16 pm by TomiTapio »
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Re: DF2014 Question and Answer Thread
« Reply #3824 on: September 07, 2019, 12:08:37 pm »
Quote from: Ulfarr on September 07, 2019, 02:38:05 am
Is there a way (either in vanilla or through DFHack) to know before embarking whether the site will have frequent rains?
... my main concern is the availability of trees...

The game uses "rainfall" and "drainage" to *assign* biomes, and trees require water (which cannot, at present, be supplied by rivers, springs, magic, or other means). If you look at this biome chart, you'll notice all the forest biomes have high rainfall. Low rainfall biomes are Deserts, Wastelands, and Badlands (along with some less-explicit cold variants).

Your best bet is to find an appropriate rainless biome next to a forest and embark on multiple tiles (the combination will be quite rare in normal world generation since it requires the rainfall value to change drastically, but can be created with world painter I think). Alternatively, you can just embark in a rainless biome and import wood.
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