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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2355 on: August 21, 2015, 01:07:35 am »

Will it be possible for expert soldiers to take apprentices instead of following normal barracks training routines (eventually)? Fighting styles as a later goal are listed on the dev page, and I was wondering if veteran soldiers could eventually take some less seasoned troops and teach them a new method they came up with, or just give them general training in a more direct way than the usual.
He answers this question right in blog post. Generalized Apprentice Master relationship will take more work, and they'll work on it later.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2356 on: August 21, 2015, 03:48:05 pm »

Can we mod random beast/interactions generator? I would like to change undead stats and give bigger cooldown for webbers, it is possible to mod GCS like this, but not random beasts. Is it possible to add this generators in raws?
Eventually that should happen, but not in the foreseeable future. Toady has mentioned a few times that dragons are a prime target for "raw-based" random generation.

will people be able to get married outside of their respective species in the new version?
Very unlikely. The work Toady did was mostly to make multiracial fortresses work from what he said, not to expand the existing multiracial entities. If it does happen, it'd be probably an unintended behavior.

Will there be cursed NPCs that seek a cure, seek to hurt as few people as possible and even some that seek to spread the curse more than they want to kill?

Edit: To clarify I'm only talking about NPCs cursed with the werebeast/vampire curse.
The first would require that there are cures. I'd expect that it's an eventual goal that some werecurses/vampires allow struggling against the monster side or embracing it for ambitions more, as those are pretty common tropes in stories.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2357 on: August 21, 2015, 05:14:47 pm »

Will scholars be attracted to your fortress based on what literature you have? As in, if you have a lot of books related to medicine will you get visitors with medical skills looking to study there? Perhaps we'd finally have a reliable way to train doctors.
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« Reply #2358 on: August 22, 2015, 09:11:47 am »

Will scholars be attracted to your fortress based on what literature you have? As in, if you have a lot of books related to medicine will you get visitors with medical skills looking to study there? Perhaps we'd finally have a reliable way to train doctors.

Knowledge has no impact on skills, so even if your scholars know all about medicine they won't be any better at bone-setting or anything else used in fort mode.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2359 on: August 22, 2015, 10:02:27 am »

Will scholars be attracted to your fortress based on what literature you have? As in, if you have a lot of books related to medicine will you get visitors with medical skills looking to study there? Perhaps we'd finally have a reliable way to train doctors.

Knowledge has no impact on skills, so even if your scholars know all about medicine they won't be any better at bone-setting or anything else used in fort mode.

Makes sense, Just because I researched masonry for a while on Google doesn't mean I become good at it.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2360 on: August 22, 2015, 10:42:11 am »

Seeing at how the worst murdering rampages/crimes can be done in complete impunity in adventure mode, will there be something done about it in next version that is more appropriate than those "spits" or calling one a murderer without any more consequence ?
Will there be real consequence to a NPC/player actions making himself "enemy" to a civ ? And with civs getting different ethics than an entity, will the enemity propagate toward other allied civs or will it stay local only ?

Will we see in the future the justice system of the fortress mode taking effect in adventure mode too with some kind of guard/hammerer/assassins squads dispatched by location leaders to bringing people to justice for minor crimes or trying to put a lethal end to their murder spree ?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2361 on: August 22, 2015, 12:01:48 pm »

Will scholars be attracted to your fortress based on what literature you have? As in, if you have a lot of books related to medicine will you get visitors with medical skills looking to study there? Perhaps we'd finally have a reliable way to train doctors.

Knowledge has no impact on skills, so even if your scholars know all about medicine they won't be any better at bone-setting or anything else used in fort mode.
I think they mean training doctors by getting doctors to migrate to your fortress with your medical library, and then as Toady said in the dev blog " During research discussions, if somebody is better at skills associated to the topic and has broader knowledge, the dwarves (or permanent residents) can decide to strike up an arrangement. This will allow scholars to teach their students directly, and they can teach all of their present apprentices at once to speed things up"
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2362 on: August 22, 2015, 06:09:37 pm »

Seeing at how the worst murdering rampages/crimes can be done in complete impunity in adventure mode, will there be something done about it in next version that is more appropriate than those "spits" or calling one a murderer without any more consequence ?
Will there be real consequence to a NPC/player actions making himself "enemy" to a civ ? And with civs getting different ethics than an entity, will the enemity propagate toward other allied civs or will it stay local only ?

Will we see in the future the justice system of the fortress mode taking effect in adventure mode too with some kind of guard/hammerer/assassins squads dispatched by location leaders to bringing people to justice for minor crimes or trying to put a lethal end to their murder spree ?

I eagerly await being able to become the enemy of a civilization and have adventurers go on quests to track me down, military squads be dispatched when they fail, and diplomats eventually arriving to ask me politely to stop killing everyone.
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« Reply #2363 on: August 22, 2015, 11:02:05 pm »

I eagerly await being able to become the enemy of a civilization and have adventurers go on quests to track me down, military squads be dispatched when they fail, and diplomats eventually arriving to ask me politely to stop killing everyone.
On that note, when can we expect to see smaller entities (bandits and criminal organizations, animal men tribes, rebels) and roaming encounters (*) interacting with our fortresses directly? Is that type of thing covered with the whole visitation dealie?
« Last Edit: August 23, 2015, 09:13:57 pm by Spish »
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2364 on: August 23, 2015, 03:25:32 am »

Is the current difficulty of the living dead (particularly zombies raised in worldgen) intended? For that matter, are goblins/etc supposed to be as weak as they are currently?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2365 on: August 24, 2015, 07:54:31 am »

When will better conversation be on the cards?
« Last Edit: August 24, 2015, 09:00:52 am by Novel Scoops »
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2366 on: August 24, 2015, 07:59:29 am »

When will conversation be on the cards?

Huh? Do you mean in fortress mode?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2367 on: August 24, 2015, 09:12:45 am »

When will conversation be on the cards?

Huh? Do you mean in fortress mode?
To be fair, I've never noticed a dwarf say "It was inevitable" in fortress mode.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2368 on: August 24, 2015, 09:19:00 am »

I think conversations are related to time schemes in fortress mode: you see everything speeded up, so it would only be relevant to have your information slowed down enough to have individual sentences if you were pausing or examining something in slow motion.

Pausing = the thought/quotes on personality page, and slow motion = combat reports. Where they do randomly talk. To their enemies.

The latter is pretty limited, to be fair. The only times they don't do generic fear statements is when they choose to say something totally inappropriate. It's actually pretty rude to tell someone that you have no hope after getting sunburn if you've just hammered their spinal column through their guts.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #2369 on: August 24, 2015, 09:27:29 am »

I think conversations are related to time schemes in fortress mode: you see everything speeded up, so it would only be relevant to have your information slowed down enough to have individual sentences if you were pausing or examining something in slow motion.

Pausing = the thought/quotes on personality page, and slow motion = combat reports. Where they do randomly talk. To their enemies.

The latter is pretty limited, to be fair. The only times they don't do generic fear statements is when they choose to say something totally inappropriate. It's actually pretty rude to tell someone that you have no hope after getting sunburn if you've just hammered their spinal column through their guts.
I get why there's no routine conversation in fortress mode (it's not like the entity has [TRANSLATION:OLD_ENTISH]), but it'd be nice to see topics of conversation pop up on the Thoughts and Preferences screen (Urist felt pride discussing her battle with a cave dragon.).  I think think the bardic tales in the upcoming release will go a long way in that regard, but the reality is there are some people who really do just like to hear themselves talk.
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