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[Knight Otu]

I'd like to note that it's the values that'll be randomized for humans in the next release. Those are distinct from the ethics. (And I don't think we know for sure if it's one tag for randomizing all values, or a per-value tag that allows mixing fixed and random values) .

Also, the standard migration from LIKES_SITE/TOLERATES_SITE is already doing a lot for creating multi-racial sites in world gen without need for slavery and kidnapping.

[DVNO]

There is literally no way the random ethics can work except having it in the raws, since humans are the only ones who actually get the randomness.

Also, baby snatching ain't an ethic.

This is what I mean:

I hope it can be set like

[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:VARIABLE]
((ect))

Instead of an all encompassing tag like [ETHICS_VARIABLE] or something

[Admiral Obvious]

Well, setting the tag to variable, if set to be variable, each time it's read would mean that the ethic could change every time the game is started, or any time the variable is read. It's unlikely that keeping the variable... on variable would work, because that means that the entity will have what I can call "severe mood swings" based on their ethics. May be a good thing, but probably not.

Each entity would need to be able to store a separate post randomized variable, which now that I think about it isn't that hard, you'd just need to add a whole extra line (or more) of code to tell the game to keep the set variable.

[Max™]

I'd like to note that it's the values that'll be randomized for humans in the next release. Those are distinct from the ethics. (And I don't think we know for sure if it's one tag for randomizing all values, or a per-value tag that allows mixing fixed and random values) .

Also, the standard migration from LIKES_SITE/TOLERATES_SITE is already doing a lot for creating multi-racial sites in world gen without need for slavery and kidnapping.

Yup, simply removing likes site from dark fortresses for gobs gives the dual effect that the populations don't spike into the 10k range, making them far more pleasant to explore as an adventurer, and it encourages them to integrate more widely into the world, leading to lots of interesting multi-racial communities.

[DVNO]

Each entity totally is able to store separate post randomized variables, since [VARIABLE_POSITIONS:ALL] is already thing.

[Dirst]

There is literally no way the random ethics can work except having it in the raws, since humans are the only ones who actually get the randomness.

Also, baby snatching ain't an ethic.

This is what I mean:

I hope it can be set like

[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:VARIABLE]
((ect))

Instead of an all encompassing tag like [ETHICS_VARIABLE] or something

[ETHIC:OATHBREAKING:PUNISH_REPRIMAND-ISH]

[Max™]

[ETHIC:NAUGHTINESS:PUNISH_SPANKING]

[Shonai_Dweller]

So, scholars and scribes. How does it all fit together on a worldwide scale? Is there a system for passing knowledge around from one fort to another or between friendly civilizations?
Scribes will make copies of your codices, then...take the copies off to other fortresses, returning with new ones next Spring? Sell them to merchants? While scholars will stay put and study the works? Or go find new ones to study? Or pay adventurers to visit the local tower library and bring back a rare copy of The Dwarf -  My Biggest Mistake...?

[TheNewerMartianEmperor]

Does the new scholar occupation system mean that the old Philosopher Noble position is returning?

[jason0320]

What's the the mechanic of tree growing?

[vjmdhzgr]

Well, setting the tag to variable, if set to be variable, each time it's read would mean that the ethic could change every time the game is started, or any time the variable is read. It's unlikely that keeping the variable... on variable would work, because that means that the entity will have what I can call "severe mood swings" based on their ethics. May be a good thing, but probably not.

Each entity would need to be able to store a separate post randomized variable, which now that I think about it isn't that hard, you'd just need to add a whole extra line (or more) of code to tell the game to keep the set variable.

Civilization ethics currently can't be changed in an ongoing game so setting them to variable would randomize it for the one time that it's supposed to be randomized, then any further randomization would be ignored because the civilization already exists and ignores any changes to the entity raws. Or Toady could just code it to randomize once at the generation of each civilization to make sure nothing crazy happens, which would probably be quite easy.

[DG]

I wonder if this means that dwarves will nurse their drinks if they're in a tavern. There's no point using a mug if you just down it in a single gulp anyway.

[Scoops Novel]

Since visitors will be visiting local "establishments", will minting currency have a greater purpose than just to be used as an export item?

I'm not exactly sure what the exchange rate would be, like 1 golden coin for 10k elven bark currency notes? If this is even how it's going to work.

I can just see a possible expansion of the use of currency in this next update as a likely next step. Money for furniture/weapons/food/beer/bounties and whatnot.

What's the the mechanic of tree growing?

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[Knight Otu]

Does the new scholar occupation system mean that the old Philosopher Noble position is returning?

No, it reconfirms that the noble position is deader than dodos, to be replaced by occupations of a philosophical bent like the scholar. A singular noble named Philosopher per civilization won't happen. Maybe a court philosopher or the like.

[Spish]

Would adventurers be able to fill their mugs with drinks from barrels?

Or better yet, the blood of their enemies?