Alright. Less busy.
N3 I tried to use my transfer power to make TheWetSheep (see my issues with Imp) hand a power to Tiruin. This failed: panic.
MBP: Your entire attack on Tiruin, as you clarified it (dependent on the combo), seems to be built on an odd set of assumptions. Why are you assuming that scum doesn't just have some sort of unstoppability powers or something else that counters the combo? Why are you assuming that the panic is what's in scum hands, not just a way around the panic? Are there not many ways for Wuba to balance the relevant set of powers, no matter whose hands those powers are in (particularly in a game like this, where powers are rapidly flying from player to player and town powers can quickly become scum powers)?
MBP: Please answer this stuff.
TolyK: You continue to leave much unexplained. Would you be so kind as to explain why you decided to inspect me? In addition, what is that analysis of Silthuri? In addition, why have you decided to claim your role at this point, sort of outside of a massclaim?
Jack A T- None of you are voting: Why?
Cheeetar: I was busy and confused, as already stated.
TheWetSheep: Why Philanthropy on IronyOwl?
Urist Imiknorris: You've made an interesting move. Interesting in that it gives me a lot of points I can use to learn more about you. Let's look at your post.
Jack A T: As far as I can tell, the only players you've indicated any real suspicion of are either the inactive (NQT/TolyK D2, Varee today) or easy targets (both Cheeetar and flabort D2
First, is it correct to say that your use of "inactive" here has little to do with amount of activity, and much to do with the quality of the activity shown? That's the only way I see your statement making sense.
Second, I find the most interesting parts of your assertions here are not what you chose to include, but what you omitted. For instance,
this FoS of Nerjin alongside my TolyK vote and case. Now, I assume that most players making cases based on records of suspicion would carefully examine, among other things, voting records. You should have found this easily. This leads me to believe that either you made your case without careful examination of the evidence, or you chose to leave this out. Please explain this omission.
Of more importance is your choice to leave my day 1 activities out completely. What led you to believe that inclusion of my Day 1 activities, including a major part of my record of votes and suspicions (particularly the first major Flabort vote), would not be of value to your case?
[impressive how you take both sides simultaneously]
Raise your standards. The ability to see issues on multiple "sides" and note them publicly should not be, in itself, all that impressive.
Your framing of this particular issue is interesting, though. What makes you view Cheeetar and Flabort as the two sides of the conflict? What makes them "both," as in all, of the sides? What is it that is scummy about a willingness to critically examine "both sides" of an issue? Finally, why are you stretching a
statement of intent to examine Cheeetar for having caught my eye while suspecting flabort into a solid taking of "both sides" in the conflict?
The rest you just poke at a little (if at all) and answer questions/discuss the setup. The closest you get to actually hunting is when you accused Imp of doing the same thing you are: providing lots of words with little aggression.
Considering that you consider me to have taken aggressive action against six players (seven if you include Nerjin) out of the 15 non-me living players D2 and on, this "little aggression" thing and insinuation that I attack very few players is not exactly as strong as you seem to think it is. This part of your attack is particularly unconvincing when it has already become clear that you either haven't been looking at my posts in much detail or have been omitting aggressive acts you don't want to mention for whatever reason.
But this part does make your goal in your accusation clear. You want to flip part of my attack on Imp around, and put reaching my Imp conclusion about me above reaching an evidence-based conclusion. Why did you prioritize flipping the attack on Imp around over making a good case?
Notably, you seem to be deliberately avoiding the stronger players (except when Cheeetar was looking like an easy lynch due to his quickhammer).
And who are you specifically referring to here? And why are you turning a person whose attackers were already strongly dissipating by the time of my first post D2 into someone who looked like an easy lynch at the time? And when did Imp become a weaker player?
So, who do you suspect? What are your reads?
I'll do a solid reads post and examination tomorrow, with a focus on the TolyK and MBP matters and the pushes against them. Quick thoughts now:
*MBP is flaily and his case against Tiruin is absolutely abysmal, but I have trouble seeing scum as being that attention-grabby in such a bad way. I lean a bit towards him being town.
*TolyK's strategic uselessness is still uselessness, but his inspect seems like it's probably legitimate. Not sure what to think of him. Need to squeeze more info out of him. Get him to take actual stances and explain opinions.
*TheWetSheep... My case against Imp was weakened a bit by the arrival of an alternate explanation for the poor level of play: whatever real life stuff it is that got her to stop visiting the forum may have been interfering with her play (and certainly stopped the promised content). However, most of the case still applies. TheWetSheep hasn't had the chance to show much of himself yet, and cannot defend Imp, so I'm leaving this case mostly away for a bit.
Why are you only going after easy targets like some sort of opportunistic scum?
Cannot answer: invalid premise.
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