On the MBP/Tiruin issue: This may have something to do with whatever caused my Varee-->Tiruin transfer to be changed to Varee-->TolyK (possibly some sort of long-term randomizing thing).
Toaster: You're missing Jack and Silthuri's claims, as they haven't posted yet.
Urist Imiknorris: My action, a power transfer from TolyK to Tiruin, failed.
MBP: So, who do you suspect now?
TolyK: Did you not consider the standard player reaction to those who do last minute self-saving silliness?
I'm tired of us charging after every high-profile twit we see. That approach has gotten us absolutely nowhere, and our ever-growing line of dead twits (flabort, Varee, and secondary suspect Scripten) is town. And our major secondary suspects each day? High-profile twits like Varee or MBP, or people who made high-profile poor moves like Scripten.
We're at 10 players out of 17, and we're burning through townies. What we're doing is not working.
We are failing.Everyone: Who is your top non-TolyK, non-MBP suspect and why?
I can tell you mine:
TheWetSheep.Let's begin with his predecessor, Imp.
I made a case against her back on day 3. Essentially, although active and questioning broadly, she had had only two vote targets for the entire game. They, of course, were the ridiculously easy targets: Varee and flabort. The latter she voted for at the end of day 2, and did so in a half-hearted way. Her questioning, while looking good, didn't help find scum. And then there's one rather off-putting reason for her flabort vote:
Yes, I was panicking too. Somewhat. You don't gather ~5 votes, get daykilled, and then get the only votes so far back on you and not panic about that; someone wants you dead, and that someone is very determined. I want to be alive long enough to learn who.
That doesn't sound or feel like a new player playing Town. Furthermore he's made a claim of being very, very familiar with hammers. So he also knows he doesn't 'need to be alive' to learn anything; we learn everything when the game is over no matter when we die.
Yes, this is Imp attacking flabort for saying he wanted to be alive long enough to learn who tried to kill him, using the post-game reveal to say that he'll learn anyway whether alive or dead. There were a lot of valid reasons to attack flabort. This is not among them. It is a contrived reason, dependent on an unrealistically literal reading of flabort's statement; it is dependent on an assumption that flabort had no interest in dealing with the person(s) who wanted him dead and cared only about learning who they were. The assumption is, of course, not supported by flabort's actions, including his repeated assertions that one of his reasons for attacking Nerjin was a belief that Nerjin was the daykiller.
Unfortunately, Imp disappeared before she could respond. TheWetSheep replaced her.
So, on Day 4,
I vote TheWetSheep both for the Imp stuff and for poor play, including a bare-bones TolyK vote. His play does improve, but
his reaction to my vote is quite the reaction:
I can't address your issues with Imp, but would you say I'm the lowest on content today? Many people haven't even voted, and TolyK's and Nerjin's votes are similarly low-content and low-pressure. I realize this doesn't mean I'm less guilty of it, but why are you focusing on only me?
He deflected, and did so badly. He focused on a single aspect of my case and shoved me at other targets.
When I called him out on his deflection, he
claimed he was just pointing out a flaw in my argument. My response:
I was pointing out a flaw in your argument. I was not telling you to go vote those people.
Yes, yes, the horrible flaw that was me going after you instead of Nerjin, TolyK, or a non-voter. The horrible flaw in my argument being that if much of my case was to be ignored and one single part was to be treated as my entire case, I should have been going after people you believed that single part of my case fit better than you.
So, I ask again: why did you feel the need to deflect?
He has yet to respond to my last attack.
TheWetSheep's response to my vote was panicky deflection, and his predecessor spent her time coasting through the game with little in the way of suspicions. I believe TheWetSheep is most likely scum.
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