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Author Topic: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)  (Read 5326 times)

martinuzz

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I think something went wrong with the fix for making dwarves use weapons instead of fists.
In 40.04, my squad of speardwarves only use punches now, they don't use their equipped spear at all anymore.

http://puu.sh/ajQMm/25ef442234.png

My dwarf went from speardwarf to wrestler in no time now :(

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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2014, 04:51:30 pm »

On the bright side, fists are more effective than most blunt weaponry.

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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2014, 04:54:43 pm »

Mod slade fists for now?

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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2014, 04:59:57 pm »

I think some more testing is in order.
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2014, 05:29:35 pm »

Is this save from an older version? There may be some compatibility issues.

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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2014, 05:32:06 pm »

Yes the save was started in 40.03. Toady said it should be save compatible though
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2014, 05:49:11 pm »

People with a weapon should use it with the proper frequency now

Maybe the proper frequency is 0% of the time?  ::)
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2014, 05:50:27 pm »

I think the key word here was "should."
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2014, 06:01:22 pm »

I think the key word here was "should."

Or "people".  :D
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2014, 06:17:48 pm »

A quick test in adventure mode:

Auto attack now predominantly uses the weapon, while in 40.03. it was all about wrestling. So I guess one needs a new game for this to be effective.
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2014, 06:19:58 pm »

It shouldn't require a new game, and I'm not sure what data would carry over to stop it from using the wielded weapon.  Hopefully it works in dwarf mode at all for anybody...

edit: that was a sparring screenshot -- maybe it is sparring that is busted?
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2014, 06:48:49 pm »

A quick test of my own regarding the sparring issue resulted in dwarves not sparring often at all, even when I set up the military in such a way that - prior to this update - they would spar quite frequently. When they did spar, it was mostly punching.
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2014, 06:53:34 pm »

A quick test of my own regarding the sparring issue resulted in dwarves not sparring often at all, even when I set up the military in such a way that - prior to this update - they would spar quite frequently. When they did spar, it was mostly punching.

Nah, that is something else, and a recurring problem.
Since .34, and maybe even before that, though it's possible .40 brought new problems.
It's "luck" based, in the sense that nobody seems to know for sure the rule of sparring, demonstrations and drills.
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2014, 06:59:02 pm »

On the bright side, fists are more effective than most blunt weaponry.
I feel like this is also a bug, but considering how little weapons have been used in comparison to fists, it's hard to tell if weapons are as good at pulping as fists.

I think it's kinda unrealistic to have dwarves pulping other humanoids by punching them through their armor though. Totally metal and awesome, but unrealistic.
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Re: Now my dwarves don't use their weapons at all anymore (40.04)
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2014, 07:15:01 pm »

edit: that was a sparring screenshot -- maybe it is sparring that is busted?

Could be.  My sparring dwarves favor their fists, but when I let a goblin out of a cage, they use their axes consistently.  (I only had 2 goblins to test with, so far.)
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