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Minotaurs.

"Holy".

Neither.

Both.

[StagnantSoul]

So I've started putting ideas together for the my next mod, working name as Stagnant Creatures Set, which would bring in some new creatures, a trio of new semi-megabeasts, a new megabeast, at least one new civilization, and a really nice new cavern creature, that dwarves can make. So here are your options:
A) A civilization of minotaurs, called the Minaurians, who are split up between a 50% smaller, most common minotaur, the normal one, and Eldest Minotaurs, slow growing, very strong and large minotaurs. Only the eldest would retain the minotaur's innate combat ability and fearlessness. Plains would be their homes, and they would have an enhanced, nearly as good as steel bronze alloy as their best metal.

B) A utterly "good, really "holy" civilization, called the Enlightened, who would be comprised of dwarves, elves, humans, goblins, and a beast man I'll choose at a later time. They'd find most things punishable or unacceptable, except torture for information, slavery, and anything else that advances their cause. They'd live in anything but the elven civilization homes: hamlets, hillocks, fortresses, cities, towns, anything. Mostly taking up plains and maybe even glaciers, the glaciers just to show off how strong of people they are. They would have access to a slim amount of weapons: war hammers, halberds, pikes, two hand and long swords, morning stars, bows, and battle axes. They'd have access to a great metal I'm working on now, so if you don't piss them off in world gen, and don't have access to the necessary resources, you can get some from them. Piss them off, prepare to have a pike to the face.

So which sounds better to you?

[dirkdragonslayer]

First vote for team minotaur! I always wanted a minotaur mod where I could build my trap filled labyrinth atop my hoard of gold. One big reason is because I always feel bad for the monsters, kobolds just want to make a living, dragons just want to live alone in their caves, and minotaurs just want theses pilfering adventurers to leave them alone(I cannot justify goblins though, they are just dicks.) I think having tough people(though a little smaller than normal df minotaurs, they are friggin' huge) with a small population that specializes in traps would fit well. although everyone is freakin' ripped, you don't have many to spare to fight, so you have to decide between risking losing a valuable worker or building traps.

[StagnantSoul]

Good point... I could make it so they have a somewhat lesser chance of reproducing.

[Chevaleresse]

Both ideas sound neat but please realize that your "small selection" consists of the best possible weapons from each category and is larger than the dwarven arsenal. (Off the top of my head: maces, warhammers, shortswords, spears, battle axes, crossbows, and picks if you count those, so 6 or 7 vs 8 or 9) They'd better exist as an unplayable race that serves to challenge the lategame fortress.


EDIT: And I suggest Tigermen for the beast race, simply due to the fact that they used to be tameable.

[StagnantSoul]

Yeah, they'd definitely not be playable. And I've been playing my modded Draconian civilizations and also humans, so I was thinking versus humans and Draconians, which can make anything. I haven't played dwarves for a while, forgot about that. Tigermen were my first thought. Maybe I'll get rid of two hand swords and morning stars. The crossbow is better than the bow though, as the bow is basically a shooter, than comes down to a wooden sword with no edge, whereas the crossbow is a shooter, that ends up being a hammer in close range. They wouldn't have trances, they're "above" those. So a group of tranced burning steel clad dwarves could dodge and hack up quite a few of them. And remember, you won't be near them very often. Just plains and glaciers. Think of them as a mixture of WOW's Alliance, and the Knights Templar.

And not to mention adamantine. That'd cut them down pretty easily.

[thistleknot]

check out Minotaurs and Priests of Istar in DragonLance