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Author Topic: Media Blackouts & Corruption in Games Journalism  (Read 19622 times)

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Re: Media Blackouts & Corruption in Games Journalism
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2014, 07:34:20 am »

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Re: Media Blackouts & Corruption in Games Journalism
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2014, 07:41:41 am »

Right, here is my take on the whole "Corruption in Journalism" thing:

AAA publishers spend thousands on bribes, and the internet seems pretty content, for the most part, to let it go.

Some indie dev comes along with some free text game nobody otherwise knows anything about, has sex with a journalist and suddenly cries of corruption can be heard from rooftops.

Some time in the future when this "scandle" dries up, the internet will go back to it's previous state of relative contentedness.

*closes book* The End.
The problem here is that she framed two seperate imageboards to whore more attention, which sort of pissed them off, that's why this blew up.
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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2014, 07:42:54 am »

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Re: Media Blackouts & Corruption in Games Journalism
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2014, 07:48:44 am »

Then instead of being apathetic, try to affect change. Instead of typing about how no one will care, go out there and type about why this stuff angers you (or doesn't, if it doesn't, just talk ABOUT it instead of around it).
The issue is that this is all a non-issue. It's not as if giving favourable reviews to people you like is an instance of corruption. It would be a different matter if sexual favours were being used as part of an exchange for good reviews, but as far as I can tell from those examples posted the relationships have been completely unrelated to any attempt at getting good reviews.
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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2014, 07:51:00 am »

The issue is that this is all a non-issue. It's not as if giving favourable reviews to people you like is an instance of corruption. It would be a different matter if sexual favours were being used as part of an exchange for good reviews, but as far as I can tell from those examples posted the relationships have been completely unrelated to any attempt at getting good reviews.

What is "nepotism"?
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Re: Media Blackouts & Corruption in Games Journalism
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2014, 07:52:03 am »

FAKE EDIT:Fuck it, I am going to turn my head off this for a while until all the angry and spite from both side stop so i can find out what the fuck it all about and why it is worth it to put time into making a discussion about it with no way to see the reason with all this hate
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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2014, 07:52:59 am »

The issue is that this is all a non-issue. It's not as if giving favourable reviews to people you like is an instance of corruption. It would be a different matter if sexual favours were being used as part of an exchange for good reviews, but as far as I can tell from those examples posted the relationships have been completely unrelated to any attempt at getting good reviews.

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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2014, 07:53:35 am »

The issue is that this is all a non-issue. It's not as if giving favourable reviews to people you like is an instance of corruption. It would be a different matter if sexual favours were being used as part of an exchange for good reviews, but as far as I can tell from those examples posted the relationships have been completely unrelated to any attempt at getting good reviews.

What is "nepotism"?
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The practice among those with power or influence of favouring relatives or friends, especially by giving them jobs:

Why is nepotism wrong?
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Re: Media Blackouts & Corruption in Games Journalism
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2014, 07:58:30 am »

Maay I remind peoples in this thread that we have good evidence that americain police actually execute innocent citizen in complete impunity? I'm pretty sure that the integrity of gaming journalist is pretty inconsequencial ESPECIALLY since they are reviewing games you won't play no matter any stars they got.
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« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2014, 07:59:45 am »

I think that wrong is a very charged word, but it's undesirable because it means that people end up in positions of power who are not necessarily the best suited for it.
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Re: Media Blackouts & Corruption in Games Journalism
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2014, 08:01:57 am »

Maay I remind peoples in this thread that we have good evidence that americain police actually execute innocent citizen in complete impunity? I'm pretty sure that the integrity of gaming journalist is pretty inconsequencial ESPECIALLY since they are reviewing games you won't play no matter any stars they got.

*sigh*

No one I've noticed is actually defending the behavior. Everything I've seen so far is simple incredulity at the fact that people believe an incredibly minor scandal that isn't even a meaningful drop in the corruption bucket is something other than it is.
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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2014, 08:04:47 am »

Maay I remind peoples in this thread that we have good evidence that americain police actually execute innocent citizen in complete impunity? I'm pretty sure that the integrity of gaming journalist is pretty inconsequencial ESPECIALLY since they are reviewing games you won't play no matter any stars they got.

May I remind you that in 10 billion years, our Sun will supernova and consume the Earth resulting in all life on this planet dying? I'm pretty sure all news is inconsequential if you try to compare it to a bigger tragedy, and I find it reprehensible that you would try to use an atrocity like what is being committed to shut down another discussion.

I think that wrong is a very charged word, but it's undesirable because it means that people end up in positions of power who are not necessarily the best suited for it.

Yes, nepotism defeats any chance of meritocracy, which is something our society is founded on. When the cards are stacked against you, the other thing to do is change the game.
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« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2014, 08:08:35 am »

I think that wrong is a very charged word, but it's undesirable because it means that people end up in positions of power who are not necessarily the best suited for it.
Yes, nepotism defeats any chance of meritocracy, which is something our society is founded on. When the cards are stacked against you, the other thing to do is change the game.
And yet, it's a very different thing to corruption. Corruption being defined as:
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It's perfectly possible to favour those you are close to without any intent of deceiving anyone or engineering it for anyone's gain. It just kind of happens.
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« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2014, 08:15:44 am »

And yet, it's a very different thing to corruption. Corruption being defined as:
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It's perfectly possible to favour those you are close to without any intent of deceiving anyone or engineering it for anyone's gain. It just kind of happens.

There is nothing wrong with writing a review or an article about someone you are friends (or further) with, as long as you disclose that at the start of your article. Nothing at all.

However, not disclosing that makes your actions fraudulent. It is deception by omission. The first thing on your mind as a journalist should be, "Hey, I'm good friends with this person. I should mention that so everyone is on an even page."

If a game developer posted something about his game on Other Games here and didn't state they were the game developer, that is a breach of ethics and would get them called out by everyone (also steps close to being illegal, since it is very near grassroots marketing).
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Re: Media Blackouts & Corruption in Games Journalism
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2014, 09:28:17 am »

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