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Thought Control, 2+2 = Miriam Godwinson

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Cybernetic, robo-crusaders have arrived.

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Eudaimonia, welcome to pleasantville.

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Total Members Voted: 46

[Loud Whispers]

is the map you used available for download somewhere?

If I can find me a filesharing website I'll get them up.

You know what's fun about carriers?
They're also ballistic missile cruisers.
Rain fire and death upon our enemies. Blood for the Blood God!

I've been counting down the years till nanometallurgy is discovered. Still, it gives us time to build mag tubes to all the Pangean bases in time for the eventual takeover.

[Loud Whispers]

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The freshwater sea retreats into the trenches as Pangea herself begins to reclaim it all, coasts, straits and islands merging and blending into one another.

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Thousands starve to death as droughts swell up in bursts across formerly rainy fields of green, formers everywhere begin planting condensers and forests over infrastructure built for a different world. Just as Believing backbone formers build mag tubes and try to squeeze more freshwater from the skies with condensers in an increasingly water-scare world, many of the Pangean factions are beginning to struggle to feed their burgeoning populations. Smallscale developments have also begun to destabilize the Morganite populations by building mines over their farms to starve the cities into disarray. Morgan seems to find the exchange of citizens for industry acceptable and the Believers are obliging them.

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Land begins to constrict upon the receding waters, turning sea lanes into self-contained lakes of freshwater and narrow channels into the foundations of new hills.

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The turmoil of the sea in such an unnatural state has also destroyed much of the coastal infrastructure on Planet. Whilst this is a serious matter that must be followed up with reparations, the Atlanteans have lost some regions of the monsoon jungle which they will never get back! Permanent damage has been dealt to their precious island, scars on Atlantis's surface.

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New strips of lands connecting Pangea's various factions offer travel that's never been faster than now, with industrious backbone formers readily exploiting the most efficient paths at every instant.

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Security from rogue navies has also increased somewhat drastically; if my own ships are accosted, the enemy is already lost.

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A colony drop is already being prepared to colonize and investigate the volcano which appeared to the denizens of Planet overnight, its origins are clouded in mystery.

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The University only further remove the monsoon jungle from their precious island with erratic sea levels.

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The University also triggered planetwide fungal blooms by giving the Planet voice. However, as there is no ascent to transcendence Planet cannot be calmed. Damage so far is immense but reparable and the fungal tiles are still capable of operating as emergency food sources for some bases. There is a general lack of fungal towers so we have not reached an apocalyptic level of damage, this is merely a highly unusual international crisis. Missile production has also sped up with 34 Medicine Missiles MKII queued and 50 Judgement Missiles MKII ready from as early as 12 years and far away as 80 years. When the time comes I should not be in a want for missiles, this is by far the most ambitious attempt I've ever made at stockpiling weapons of planet destruction. In regards to their anti-missile defences, the University waste their defence satelites by destroying mine. Once the rest of his defences are spent trying to down fungus-ridden Medicine Missiles, Judgement Missiles laden with fusion warheads (or better yet, quantum or singularity warheads) will take out key bases and sink Atlantis.
Also something of note is that University Base, Zhakarov's HQ, only has 4000 people living in it. All of its descendant bases around it are harvesting all the resources it would need to grow larger.
Also do note, that rather humorously a singularity-warhead planet buster missile can fly itself right into the heart of the enemy's population centres and if you choose to destroy an improvement, you could have a case where this weapon of mass destruction mildly inconveniences the enemy's commute before crashing by damaging a road in a tiny poof.

[Loud Whispers]

...The Drones just surrendered. I did not see this coming.

[Iituem]

Well crap.

[andrea]

drones surrendered to whom? You, I suppose?
In that case, isn't conquest of atlantis a few orders of magnitude easier, having a large beachhead and an awful lot of infantry to keep the cities until you can reinforce/feed them tech?

Still, it is odd.

[Patchy]

Really?! Domai lost his spine or something? Or maybe he just sensed the impending doom and went with the side he thought was going to win. And as far as I know, Domai is quite safe from the Uni since they are supposed to be permanent pact-mates for the scenario rules. Definately an odd and unexpected turn of events.

[Hanzoku]

Generally, the AI will never surrender to the player. It's possible he surrendered to the University, making that faction even more powerful then it was.

[andrea]

if drones surrendered to university, will university more eagerly share tech with them?

[Hanzoku]

On surrender, they become a full part of the University, and transfer all tech, bases, units and credits to their new overlords.

[Patchy]

Wait full surrender is a thing? I don't remember ever seeing that in my time with SMAC/X. I thought he meant Domai vassalised himself to believers or uni.

[andrea]

I don't remember either... I though surrendering was merely becoming a vassal-like state. I guess we will have to wait until whisper posts next turn to know...

[Loud Whispers]

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Every 10 years on the 6th year of each decade a vote takes place to lower solar shade (voting disrupted due to sunspot activity). The moment we launch planet busters we will no longer be able to use the planetary council, which means all flood-clearing will have to take place manually by former after the first judgement missiles fall.
In the second vote Domai voted yes whereas Zhakarov voted no. This was the first indication I could have seen that the Atlanteans were coming upon disagreements.

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The message as it happened.

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I wonder if my locusts had anything to do with influencing the Drone's sudden surrender after two centuries and a half at war. Psi units have also been tested to be rather effective, with both the dream twister and the neural amplifier under Believing control the Lord's Believers are masters at psi combat.

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Rather fittingly Lab Three is being starved to death by overwhelming fungal blooms in addition to a few other unfortunate University bases.

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The Atlantean magway. All University bases are connected, though there is a distinct lack of mag tubes in all Drone bases.

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The Pangean magway. With the vast quantities of formers available for use the Believers have propelled Pangean infrastructure to such a phenomenal level in just a few years to the point where anyone can now leave Sparta Command in the far west and travel to Angelbase Alpha and the manifold nexus in the far east in the same year, whereas a journey on the same path by needlejet would take over 6 years. Currently the Spartans use the magway to send vast quantities of troops to overrun Morganite bases, soon I will likewise do the same to the Spartans and their bases.

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Falling sea levels have revealed energy-rich islands up from the shelves of the northern sea.

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After a few more decades of solar shade increases even the greatest of channels will be reduced to nothing, here the sizeable channel between Titan's arm and Titan's Leg has been reduced to the point where some of the Peacekeeper's seabases have been grounded.

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Falling sea levels have made the Jerusalem heartlands entirely impervious to naval attacks by the Atlanteans. It has also made all ships still within Pangea itself rather useless.

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Whilst Pangean populations merely rise with the onset of much more new land to settle, the Atlanteans experience a slight decrease in growth due to conflict, fungal blooms and the loss of many monsoon jungles.
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Much of the population growth is again down to the Believers.

This graph is now needed. As long as the cloning vats are not destroyed in the ensuing war to end all wars the Believers will survive, this is abundantly evident.

Despite having vastly lower populations than the Believers, the University and Peacekeepers both make up about the same number of planetary votes as the Believers.

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The Free Drones have entered the Pangean trade bloc and it seems everyone but me is using a free market economy; commerce profits are through the roof (though decreasing somewhat with the gradual erosion of the Free Drones).

I made the Drones declare vendetta on the University, finally creating an absolute trade embargo against the University dropping their commerce income to 0. The Free Drones have also benefited from gaining a trade treaty with everyone who isn't Zhakarov, but are rapidly losing their bases to the University war machine.

The Free Drones exchanged their planned economy for a free market to take advantage of all these new lucrative deals; unfortunately for them this also resulted in massive drone riots just as the University began their assaults.

The strain of war and infrastructure costs are weighing heavily on both Believer and University power grids, the Believers however are not reliant on the fluctuations of the free market and so are doing a lot more predictably well and are economically stable.

With commerce factored in the Believers surpass the University completely in energy per turn. All possible economical growth in the Spartan and Morganite markets has been ruined by the onset of war caused by the Spartans which, coinciding with the downfall of the Free Drones is causing a recession.

Hive markets are up and the Free Drones have temporarily surpassed all of the other lesser five in energy revenue per turn (incl. commerce) single handedly saving their ailing economy by switching sides and dooming itself to absorption by the University.

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Over 50 more formers have entered service with many more on the production lines including several hovertank "steward" formers out and about terraforming the new lands that have emerged from the sea. Morganite formers have all mostly been destroyed by the Spartans.

The Drones have lost nearly all of their anti-tank garrisons, half of their garrisons and have experienced firsthand the danger of air superiority, for the first time fielding AAA garrisons of their own. It is likely already too late for them, but it's better than never.

Roughly for every two AAA garrisons there's at least one SAM unit in the Believing arsenal. Field artillery has been rendered completely obsolete and currently the only factions to use self-propelled artillery belong to the four factions in direct military conflict right now. Belinda Hovertanks have entered the Believing mechanized branch as well as Odysseus SAM hovertanks to further bolster the air defences of Pangea. The University have lost all of their hovertanks and rovers in the fighting.

The Drone infantry was once unrivaled on Planet; it still is, but heavy casualties from University assaults has proven their human wave tactics do not work against post-future weapons. The Believers are readopting infantry with the advent of Psisoldiers who make infantry once again possible.

The Believers armies still on the most consist of highly mobile, highly armed and highly armoured units with support from advanced anti-air units.

Most of the Free Drone's sizeable navy has been lost fighting against the University navy. The University navy no longer consists of high-tech destroyers and frigates, but now relies heavily on IODs. The Believers also have their first aircraft carrier to aid with missile deployment when the time comes.

The Free Drone airforce has been reduced from the most numerous on Planet to 4th best after losing horrendously to the University.

The University has many Isles of the Deep, which I have seen be used for great effect in wiping out the Drone fleet and landing marines on its shores.

Production of judgement missiles is fully underway, no other faction can compare its efforts to the Believers. The University-Drone war has disrupted the University's efforts to procure a planet buster missile and I suspect will soon do the same to the Drones.

The stockpiles of planet busters grow. I'll try to steal the missiles that the Spartans and Hive own and destroy them if I must.

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Really?! Domai lost his spine or something? Or maybe he just sensed the impending doom and went with the side he thought was going to win. And as far as I know, Domai is quite safe from the Uni since they are supposed to be permanent pact-mates for the scenario rules. Definately an odd and unexpected turn of events.

Domai surrendered to me and profited greatly. I gave him all my tech in addition to all the other faction members and then told him to go to war with Zhakarov, if he thought he was safe he was in for a nasty fun time. My goal with this war isn't to kill Zhakarov, I don't even expect Domai to hurt Zhakarov so much as give Zhakarov new bases to play with. My goal is to remove Domai entirely from Atlantis, having given him a Peacekeeper base I bought Domai is now safe from utter annihilation when all his bases are gone in Atlantis. This means that when the time comes I can destroy him and when the Planet busters fly Zhakarov will not be left with a cockroach trading partner. I suspect his surrender may have been to do with his inferior technology, or perhaps his desire to gain access to the vast energy reserves of the Pangean common market to fix his dying economy.

drones surrendered to whom? You, I suppose?
In that case, isn't conquest of atlantis a few orders of magnitude easier, having a large beachhead and an awful lot of infantry to keep the cities until you can reinforce/feed them tech?
Still, it is odd.

Conquest of Atlantis is still not a likely prospect with University defences still great, isles of the deep still reigning supreme over the sea with air cover, most of the Believing ports having been rendered inoperable due to sudden cases of landlock and most resources being diverted for a hostile takeover of Pangea. The goal of Atlantis is also not conquest, but total annihilation, a much more feasible option even given the new circumstances.

[Aseaheru]

Fucking hell...

Well, time to get the last planet killers ready?

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Well, this is amazing, but I have never heard of SM Alpha Centauri, where could I get this game?

[pisskop]

Well, this is amazing, but I have never heard of SM Alpha Centauri, where could I get this game?

GoG.com, for one.