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Yes, but only a few or just some stereotypical fantasy metals

Yes, lots of them!

No.

[Chevaleresse]

I don't know if anyone has done this before, but would the DF community be interested in a mod that implemented a variety of metals and their ores? This would ideally be a group project, unlike my Elf Mode project that no one wanted to actually sign on for. I figure that we'll dredge up a list of metals and alloys that the community would like added to the game, then get people to find accurate material properties for each. To help out, you'd just state what metal you wanted to work on. Even if you're not a modder, suggestions are welcome.


Current list of metals:
-Aluminum bronze - Taken by King Murdoc
-Uranium (not radioactive for now, unless we give it a syndrome on contact.)
-Mithril (superior to steel, inferior to divine/candy?)

[StagnantSoul]

I'm in! I already have one metal to toss in, and am working on two more. Current metal is Burning Steel, a steel and dragon bone alloy, equal to divine metals, but heavier. I'm also working on Colossus Bronze, a bronze-steel alloy better than divine metals, but worse than adamantine, and REALLY heavy, as heavy as platinum, meaning fully colossus bronze armed hammer guards would be viable, while you put your adamantine and burning steel into the guys who need to be faster, and one more metal, not sure what it'll be, just I know it'll involve iron. I'm in!

[Chevaleresse]

I was thinking more along the lines of real metals, but I'll add a poll.

[cyberTripping]

Hwoops, clicked wrong option. Meant to put only a few, clicked lots. Is there any way to retract votes? (This is why you don't vote while low on sleep, kids)

[Chevaleresse]

No, but I'm sure we can remember this.

[Wannabehero]

I always mod aluminum bronze into my current version of DF, because it is a beautiful metal IRL, and actually gives a reason to search/trade for aluminum.

Speaking of bronzes, I also like to included leaded bronzes (slightly weaker than normal bronze, but consume lead for an actually useful purpose) and gray bronze (gunmetal bronze/brass).  Can post the raws for you later if you like.

Big fan of adding cobalt in, for cobalt alloys (cobalt steels and bronzes), and decoratives as well.  Fun fact: Cobalt is named for kobolds (germanic folklore).

I've always envisioned Mithril as being titanium alloy, but you can keep the fantasy element to it if you like, its your mod

[Dirst]

Real-world metals are always worth including, so long as they were achievable using Dwarf technology.

I would also like to see a nice set of fantasy materials, but not the fifty-ninth version of mithril. And avoid eog, galvorn, ithildin, etc. as well.  Something that is "generic" to Dwarf Fortress and not under someone's copyright.

The most obvious place to start would be to make materials related to Spheres, with more variability than the current divine metals.  Some, perhaps most, would be something other than metal.

A different direction would be to follow StangnantSoul's lead and introduce a bit of alchemy into the game.  Dragon bone has one property that can be exploited, wormy tendrils have another, etc.

[StagnantSoul]

A friend of mine made adamantium be in the game: basically he made a weaker version of adamantine, but it was one part adamantine mixed with two parts steel. What resulted was basically a dark blue, stronger, lighter steel, less numerous than steel, more numerous than adamantine. In arena, it always lost to adamantine and the divine metals, but beat steel. I could recreate his adamantium, because he decided he didn't like it and deleted it. If anyone wants me to do so, I could.

[Putnam]

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[INORGANIC:ALUMINUM_BRONZE]
    [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:METAL_TEMPLATE
    [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:aluminum bronze]
    [STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:molten aluminum bronze]
    [STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:boiling aluminum bronze]
    [DISPLAY_COLOR:0:7:1]
    [BUILD_COLOR:0:7:1]
    [MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
    [SPEC_HEAT:419]
    [MELTING_POINT:11868]
    [BOILING_POINT:14468]
    [SOLID_DENSITY:745]
    [LIQUID_DENSITY:1690]
    [MOLAR_MASS:30012]
    [IMPACT_YIELD:1890000]
    [IMPACT_FRACTURE:3780000]
    [IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:2700]
    [COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:1890000]
    [COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:3780000]
    [COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:2700] bulk modulus 70 GPa
    [TENSILE_YIELD:540000]
    [TENSILE_FRACTURE:1080000]
    [TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:469] young's modulus 115 GPa
    [TORSION_YIELD:540000]
    [TORSION_FRACTURE:1080000]
    [TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:469]
    [SHEAR_YIELD:540000]
    [SHEAR_FRACTURE:1080000]
    [SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:1227] shear modulus 44 GPa
    [BENDING_YIELD:540000]
    [BENDING_FRACTURE:1080000]
    [BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:1227]
    [MAX_EDGE:10000]
    [STATE_COLOR:ALL:SILVER]


[scamtank]

Here's one that's been grinding my gears: the fact that fine silver bullion is the stuff that's used for weapons and functional objects while the harder and more practical sterling silver is left a cheap curiosity.

Even their practical stats are the same. Just quick comparison at comparing the two on SubsTech well demonstrates that they shouldn't be. The challenge is just translating the science stats into raws language.

Also, putting all the martial pressure on the alloy instead would get rid of the "starving kobold pickpocket swinging around a solid silver machete" phenomenon. You could just keep the reaction from any "poor" civs.

[Putnam]

The challenge is just translating the science stats into raws language.

That is exactly how I made my aluminium bronze up there.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140645.0

[Chevaleresse]

Awesome. That'll make this much easier.

Anyone care to poke around and find metals that are in existing ores but aren't in-game?

[smakemupagus]

There have been quite a few mods which do such things that you might want to take a look at ... Putnam's Materials Plus, and Orichalcum DF are the ones that come immediately to mind, I'm sure there have been others too.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=7579

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139059.0

[Putnam]

Materials Plus is all wrong now that I've learned how the materials actually work, though.

[smakemupagus]

Materials Plus is all wrong now that I've learned how the materials actually work, though.

oops!!  sorry about that.