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Author Topic: [ϟ] Dark Ages IV: War & Mythos [Vanilla+Horror] [v40a] [47.04] [War Craft]  (Read 356560 times)

Kavrick

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For some reason in adventure mode i cant see my skill list, it's completely blank

I managed to figure it out, it seems some of the playable races aren't actually intelligent
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im having problems with the textures not loading for any of the new races any idea on how to fix?
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Hi Kavrick, what race are you playing in Adventure Mode?

im having problems with the textures not loading for any of the new races any idea on how to fix?

Hi Fireborn, what tileset are you using and can you give a few example of the races with no tiles?
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Hi Kavrick, what race are you playing in Adventure Mode?

im having problems with the textures not loading for any of the new races any idea on how to fix?

Hi Fireborn, what tileset are you using and can you give a few example of the races with no tiles?
I was playing a greenman
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I was playing a greenman

Okay, those should definitely be intelligent. Any other thoughts or suggestions about Greenman (or Adventure Mode) I can include in v38d?
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I was playing a greenman

Okay, those should definitely be intelligent. Any other thoughts or suggestions about Greenman (or Adventure Mode) I can include in v38d?
I mean it's a cool idea, but i stopped playing because i couldn't see my skills, which was a pretty big issue.

I stopped using the mod in general because i honestly think the "class" system is silly, when i see stuff like "human fighter child" it feels like trying to juryrig classes into the race system doesn't work very well and kinda ruins the immersion of the game, i dont even understand the purpose of putting classes into the game, it works fine, if not better without them with the skill system.
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I was playing a greenman

Okay, those should definitely be intelligent. Any other thoughts or suggestions about Greenman (or Adventure Mode) I can include in v38d?
I mean it's a cool idea, but i stopped playing because i couldn't see my skills, which was a pretty big issue.

I stopped using the mod in general because i honestly think the "class" system is silly, when i see stuff like "human fighter child" it feels like trying to juryrig classes into the race system doesn't work very well and kinda ruins the immersion of the game, i dont even understand the purpose of putting classes into the game, it works fine, if not better without them with the skill system.

Thank you for the feedback. Classes add special interactions and innate combat moves that go beyond the DF skill system like Assassin Strike and Heroic Might. With all the powerful foes in DA:III, it gives players and enemies more situational options.
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I was playing a greenman

Okay, those should definitely be intelligent. Any other thoughts or suggestions about Greenman (or Adventure Mode) I can include in v38d?
I mean it's a cool idea, but i stopped playing because i couldn't see my skills, which was a pretty big issue.

I stopped using the mod in general because i honestly think the "class" system is silly, when i see stuff like "human fighter child" it feels like trying to juryrig classes into the race system doesn't work very well and kinda ruins the immersion of the game, i dont even understand the purpose of putting classes into the game, it works fine, if not better without them with the skill system.

Thank you for the feedback. Classes add special interactions and innate combat moves that go behind the DF skill system like Assassin Strike and Heroic Might. With all the powerful foes in DA:III, it gives players and enemies more situational options.

I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.
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I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.

I could use more stylized/original names, or remove them, instead of generic classes like "Fighter." If you never saw a "fighter human child", do you feel it would instantly restore immersion for you?
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I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.

I could use more stylized/original names, or remove them, instead of generic classes like "Fighter." If you never saw a "fighter human child", do you feel it would instantly restore immersion for you?
I mean i dont think it's a simple an issue as that, of course it's still  subjective but i think ham fisting it into the racial system, you get entire villages made of one "class" which really doesn't make sense or feel right, if you want the option for players to be able to get innate powers and such, you should do it through a book system like with necromancy, where you read a book and then gain the ability to use those abilities, would be far more organic and make sense over just picking a race which is just a straight up better version of the original race.
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I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.

I could use more stylized/original names, or remove them, instead of generic classes like "Fighter." If you never saw a "fighter human child", do you feel it would instantly restore immersion for you?
I mean i dont think it's a simple an issue as that, of course it's still  subjective but i think ham fisting it into the racial system, you get entire villages made of one "class" which really doesn't make sense or feel right, if you want the option for players to be able to get innate powers and such, you should do it through a book system like with necromancy, where you read a book and then gain the ability to use those abilities, would be far more organic and make sense over just picking a race which is just a straight up better version of the original race.

I have considered using the caste system to handle classes, which would make more sense but as I recall that made DF more unstable during world gen. I am considering a complete reboot of this mod, once the Steam version is released. Due to the many changes between then and now, there will be no choice.

The problem now with leaving it only to book learning, is that it doesn't spread enough in world generation. The result would be less than 1% of playable races would ever have access, and you could waste a lot of time chasing down a single skill/power at grave personal risk. Skills that most PC's would know by level three or so automatically in a tabletop RPG.

Having said that, I only recently added class civs back into the mod. I will strongly consider releasing a leaner version of the mod before the Steam release. Until then replace the human code block in the entity_default raw to avoid it (or delete the class/races you don't want to see under [ALL_MAIN_POPS_CONTROLLABLE]):

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[WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:TUNNEL]
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    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:ROAD]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:WALL]
    [BUILDS_OUTDOOR_TOMBS]
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[STONE_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
[STONE_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
[STONE_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
[STONE_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
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[GEM_SHAPE:POINT_CUT_GEM]
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[GEM_SHAPE:SINGLE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:ROSE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:BRIOLETTE_CUT_GEM]
[GENERATE_KEYBOARD_INSTRUMENTS]
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[GENERATE_WIND_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_POETIC_FORMS]
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I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.

I could use more stylized/original names, or remove them, instead of generic classes like "Fighter." If you never saw a "fighter human child", do you feel it would instantly restore immersion for you?
I mean i dont think it's a simple an issue as that, of course it's still  subjective but i think ham fisting it into the racial system, you get entire villages made of one "class" which really doesn't make sense or feel right, if you want the option for players to be able to get innate powers and such, you should do it through a book system like with necromancy, where you read a book and then gain the ability to use those abilities, would be far more organic and make sense over just picking a race which is just a straight up better version of the original race.

I have considered using the caste system to handle classes, which would make more sense but as I recall that made DF more unstable during world gen. I am considering a complete reboot of this mod, once the Steam version is released. Due to the many changes between then and now, there will be no choice.

The problem now with leaving it only to book learning, is that it doesn't spread enough in world generation. The result would be less than 1% of playable races would ever have access, and you could waste a lot of time chasing down a single skill/power at grave personal risk. Skills that most PC's would know by level three or so automatically in a tabletop RPG.

Having said that, I only recently added class civs back into the mod. I will strongly consider releasing a leaner version of the mod before the Steam release. Until then replace the human code block in the entity_default raw to avoid it (or delete the class/races you don't want to see under [ALL_MAIN_POPS_CONTROLLABLE]):

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[SELECT_SYMBOL:TEMPLE:NAME_BUILDING_TEMPLE]
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[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:SUBORDINATE]
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[STONE_PREF]
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[MAX_POP_NUMBER:3999]
[MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:120]
[RELIGION:PANTHEON]
[WANDERER]
[BEAST_HUNTER]
[SCOUT]
[MERCENARY]
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[SCHOLAR:PHILOSOPHER]
[SCHOLAR:MATHEMATICIAN]
[SCHOLAR:HISTORIAN]
[SCHOLAR:ASTRONOMER]
[SCHOLAR:NATURALIST]
[SCHOLAR:CHEMIST]
[SCHOLAR:GEOGRAPHER]
[SCHOLAR:DOCTOR]
[SCHOLAR:ENGINEER]
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_PARCHMENT]
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SHEET_FROM_PLANT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SLURRY_FROM_PLANT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_PLANT_PAPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BIND_BOOK]
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[PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
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[PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
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[PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:TAN_A_HIDE]
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP_FROM_TALLOW]
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING2]
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:BLACK_BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STERLING_SILVER_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ROSE_GOLD_MAKING]
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[WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:TUNNEL]
[WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:BRIDGE]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:ROAD]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:WALL]
    [BUILDS_OUTDOOR_TOMBS]
[BUILDS_OUTDOOR_FORTIFICATIONS]
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[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:JUSTIFIED_IF_NO_REPERCUSSIONS]
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[VALUE:FRIENDSHIP:30]
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[VALUE:ELOQUENCE:0]
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[VALUE:CRAFTSMANSHIP:15]
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[VALUE:COMPETITION:0]
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[GEM_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:POINT_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:TABLE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:SINGLE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:ROSE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:BRIOLETTE_CUT_GEM]
[GENERATE_KEYBOARD_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_STRINGED_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_WIND_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_POETIC_FORMS]
[GENERATE_MUSICAL_FORMS]
[GENERATE_DANCE_FORMS]

Isn't that better if it's rare? it makes getting it a bigger deal rather than just being handed out at character creation. and even if you look at your population chart on the main page, should there really be more legendary dwarves than standard dwarves? seems kinda backwards.
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i was using the Phoebus tileset and it does this with every race added by the mod. when playing one of the races in adventure mode it replaces the model with a human
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Isn't that better if it's rare? it makes getting it a bigger deal rather than just being handed out at character creation. and even if you look at your population chart on the main page, should there really be more legendary dwarves than standard dwarves? seems kinda backwards.

If you remove those tags from humans, it basically addresses the entire issue you raised. Only adventurers will have those class powers and generic titles. 

As far as vanilla Dwarves populations go, that has been tweaked many times. They don't survive in world generation as well as Legendary Dwarves which live much longer. Same thing often happens in vanilla DF, which is why I made Legendary Dwarves. You will almost always have enough vanilla Dwarves to thrive in Fort mode so it doesn't impact gameplay in any meaningful way.
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i was using the Phoebus tileset and it does this with every race added by the mod. when playing one of the races in adventure mode it replaces the model with a human

I am testing this right now for you with the default Newb Pack tileset, which is Phoebus.

Each of the races/classes I've tested so far (with tiles) are displaying the correct tile in the test arena. Can you tell me one race for sure that displayed humans incorrectly?
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