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Author Topic: Dark Ages III: War & Mythos [Dwarf Fortress Horror] [v38d] [44.12] [Newb Pack]  (Read 225396 times)

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Just found the mod, gotta say its really cool. Playing as a red dragon, bit confused though. Probably a dumb question but do Red Dragons have natural weaponry (fangs, claws) in humanoid form? Also, are they supposed to have vampiric thirst, because when I go to my status screen it shows hungry and thirst but never increases over time, and the red thirst does show up and I can drink blood from people. Tested this with a freshly made red dragon too and they also thirst for blood. Just a bit worried that they count as vampires and I cant increase my strength, agility or toughness.

Also, dont know if its mentioned but whenever I try to make a helve from a branch, I instead keep making random objects. First it was scroll rollers, but now its a nesting box and a bookcase? Not sure if its a bug from the mod or if the game itself is glitching out. Its so I can make a stone axe to fell trees and try out the rest of the crafting, is there a way to make an axe another way?

Edit: Saw someone else mentioned the helve issue, tried the fix and remade world, worked. All good, my bad.

Hello Deebs, thank you for the report. I've just uploaded (yet another) fix to resolve the missing helve issue. Turns out, it was only fixed in the Wanderlust version. :-\ Anyone who downloads it now will get the fix in the Start Pack and Ironhand Dark.


As far as Red Dragon adventures go, yes it is considered a vampire-like curse due to the blood sucking tag. As I recall this is an extension of it being a were-curse in worldgen and fortress mode. May want to remove that tag before starting a new toon. I likely will in the next content update.
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07/10/2019 Toady One I finished up the basic features with pets and mounts. You can set the mount speed (which lets you see their gaits, like gallop, canter, trot, etc.), and party members will speed up to try to catch up with you. Of course, that doesn't mean anything if they don't use their own mounts, so they do that now. They will move to mount their own mountable pets after you do, and they will dismount when you dismount, if there isn't an ongoing combat or something like that drawing their immediate attention.

I also made sure that necromancer adventurers can ride undead mounts that they raise. This was flumoxed at first since the undead creatures don't have souls and so weren't taking the commands properly, but that's fixed now, though the nature of undead animation magic is still not pinned down (and won't be until much later.)...

There are tons of large exotic pets in DA:III so the addition of mounts both living and undead is extremely exciting. Hopefully flying will get some love next.
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For some reason in adventure mode i cant see my skill list, it's completely blank

I managed to figure it out, it seems some of the playable races aren't actually intelligent
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im having problems with the textures not loading for any of the new races any idea on how to fix?
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Hi Kavrick, what race are you playing in Adventure Mode?

im having problems with the textures not loading for any of the new races any idea on how to fix?

Hi Fireborn, what tileset are you using and can you give a few example of the races with no tiles?
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Hi Kavrick, what race are you playing in Adventure Mode?

im having problems with the textures not loading for any of the new races any idea on how to fix?

Hi Fireborn, what tileset are you using and can you give a few example of the races with no tiles?
I was playing a greenman
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I was playing a greenman

Okay, those should definitely be intelligent. Any other thoughts or suggestions about Greenman (or Adventure Mode) I can include in v38d?
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I was playing a greenman

Okay, those should definitely be intelligent. Any other thoughts or suggestions about Greenman (or Adventure Mode) I can include in v38d?
I mean it's a cool idea, but i stopped playing because i couldn't see my skills, which was a pretty big issue.

I stopped using the mod in general because i honestly think the "class" system is silly, when i see stuff like "human fighter child" it feels like trying to juryrig classes into the race system doesn't work very well and kinda ruins the immersion of the game, i dont even understand the purpose of putting classes into the game, it works fine, if not better without them with the skill system.
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I was playing a greenman

Okay, those should definitely be intelligent. Any other thoughts or suggestions about Greenman (or Adventure Mode) I can include in v38d?
I mean it's a cool idea, but i stopped playing because i couldn't see my skills, which was a pretty big issue.

I stopped using the mod in general because i honestly think the "class" system is silly, when i see stuff like "human fighter child" it feels like trying to juryrig classes into the race system doesn't work very well and kinda ruins the immersion of the game, i dont even understand the purpose of putting classes into the game, it works fine, if not better without them with the skill system.

Thank you for the feedback. Classes add special interactions and innate combat moves that go beyond the DF skill system like Assassin Strike and Heroic Might. With all the powerful foes in DA:III, it gives players and enemies more situational options.
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I was playing a greenman

Okay, those should definitely be intelligent. Any other thoughts or suggestions about Greenman (or Adventure Mode) I can include in v38d?
I mean it's a cool idea, but i stopped playing because i couldn't see my skills, which was a pretty big issue.

I stopped using the mod in general because i honestly think the "class" system is silly, when i see stuff like "human fighter child" it feels like trying to juryrig classes into the race system doesn't work very well and kinda ruins the immersion of the game, i dont even understand the purpose of putting classes into the game, it works fine, if not better without them with the skill system.

Thank you for the feedback. Classes add special interactions and innate combat moves that go behind the DF skill system like Assassin Strike and Heroic Might. With all the powerful foes in DA:III, it gives players and enemies more situational options.

I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.
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I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.

I could use more stylized/original names, or remove them, instead of generic classes like "Fighter." If you never saw a "fighter human child", do you feel it would instantly restore immersion for you?
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I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.

I could use more stylized/original names, or remove them, instead of generic classes like "Fighter." If you never saw a "fighter human child", do you feel it would instantly restore immersion for you?
I mean i dont think it's a simple an issue as that, of course it's still  subjective but i think ham fisting it into the racial system, you get entire villages made of one "class" which really doesn't make sense or feel right, if you want the option for players to be able to get innate powers and such, you should do it through a book system like with necromancy, where you read a book and then gain the ability to use those abilities, would be far more organic and make sense over just picking a race which is just a straight up better version of the original race.
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I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.

I could use more stylized/original names, or remove them, instead of generic classes like "Fighter." If you never saw a "fighter human child", do you feel it would instantly restore immersion for you?
I mean i dont think it's a simple an issue as that, of course it's still  subjective but i think ham fisting it into the racial system, you get entire villages made of one "class" which really doesn't make sense or feel right, if you want the option for players to be able to get innate powers and such, you should do it through a book system like with necromancy, where you read a book and then gain the ability to use those abilities, would be far more organic and make sense over just picking a race which is just a straight up better version of the original race.

I have considered using the caste system to handle classes, which would make more sense but as I recall that made DF more unstable during world gen. I am considering a complete reboot of this mod, once the Steam version is released. Due to the many changes between then and now, there will be no choice.

The problem now with leaving it only to book learning, is that it doesn't spread enough in world generation. The result would be less than 1% of playable races would ever have access, and you could waste a lot of time chasing down a single skill/power at grave personal risk. Skills that most PC's would know by level three or so automatically in a tabletop RPG.

Having said that, I only recently added class civs back into the mod. I will strongly consider releasing a leaner version of the mod before the Steam release. Until then replace the human code block in the entity_default raw to avoid it (or delete the class/races you don't want to see under [ALL_MAIN_POPS_CONTROLLABLE]):

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[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_TRUMPET]
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[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_POUCH]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_WHEELBARROW]
[CLOTHING]
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[CURRENCY:SILVER:5]
[CURRENCY:GOLD:15]
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[SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:VIOLENT]
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[SELECT_SYMBOL:ROAD:NAME_ROAD]
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[SELECT_SYMBOL:BRIDGE:NAME_BRIDGE]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:WALL:NAME_WALL]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:TEMPLE:NAME_BUILDING_TEMPLE]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:LIBRARY:NAME_BUILDING_LIBRARY]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:SUBORDINATE]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:EVIL]
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[SELECT_SYMBOL:CIV:NAME_ENTITY_KINGDOM]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:SITE:NAME_ENTITY_TOWN_FOUNDER]
[RIVER_PRODUCTS]
[OCEAN_PRODUCTS]
[METAL_PREF]
[GEM_PREF]
[STONE_PREF]
[OUTDOOR_WOOD]
[OUTDOOR_FARMING]
[OUTDOOR_GARDENS]
[USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC_PULL]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC_MOUNT]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC_PET]
[USE_MISC_PROCESSED_WOOD_PRODUCTS]
[EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
[SPHERE_ALIGNMENT:WAR:512]
[ART_FACET_MODIFIER:FANCIFUL:640]
[ART_FACET_MODIFIER:OWN_RACE:512]
[FRIENDLY_COLOR:7:0:1]
[UNDEAD_CANDIDATE]
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[START_BIOME:ANY_SAVANNA]
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[MERCHANT_NOBILITY]
[DIPLOMAT_BODYGUARDS]
[MERCHANT_BODYGUARDS]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POP_SIEGE:3]
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[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE_SIEGE:0]
[ACTIVE_SEASON:SUMMER]
[SIEGER]
[MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:5]
[MAX_POP_NUMBER:3999]
[MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:120]
[RELIGION:PANTHEON]
[WANDERER]
[BEAST_HUNTER]
[SCOUT]
[MERCENARY]
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[SCHOLAR:PHILOSOPHER]
[SCHOLAR:MATHEMATICIAN]
[SCHOLAR:HISTORIAN]
[SCHOLAR:ASTRONOMER]
[SCHOLAR:NATURALIST]
[SCHOLAR:CHEMIST]
[SCHOLAR:GEOGRAPHER]
[SCHOLAR:DOCTOR]
[SCHOLAR:ENGINEER]
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_PARCHMENT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SCROLL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_QUIRE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SHEET_FROM_PLANT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SLURRY_FROM_PLANT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_PLANT_PAPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BIND_BOOK]
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[PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MASON]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ARMORER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BLACKSMITH]
[PERMITTED_JOB:METALCRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_CUTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_SETTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:STONECRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WEAVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CLOTHIER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GLASSMAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_DISSECTOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CHEESE_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MILKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SHEARER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SPINNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GELDER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:COOK]
[PERMITTED_JOB:THRESHER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MILLER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:DYER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SOAP_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:POTASH_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:LYE_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOOD_BURNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PUMP_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CLERK]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ADMINISTRATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TRADER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ARCHITECT]
[PERMITTED_JOB:DIAGNOSER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_SETTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SUTURER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SURGEON]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GLAZER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:POTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PRESSER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BEEKEEPER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WAX_WORKER]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SOAP_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SCREW_PRESS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:TAN_A_HIDE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RENDER_FAT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP_FROM_TALLOW]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP_FROM_OIL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MILL_SEEDS_NUTS_TO_PASTE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_JUG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_BRICKS]
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_CRAFT]
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[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_HONEYCOMB]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_WAX_CRAFTS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BREW_DRINK_FROM_PLANT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BREW_DRINK_FROM_PLANT_GROWTH]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MEAD]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PROCESS_PLANT_TO_BAG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_LAY_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BLACK_BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STERLING_SILVER_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ROSE_GOLD_MAKING]
===========================================================================================================
[WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:TUNNEL]
[WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:BRIDGE]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:ROAD]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:WALL]
    [BUILDS_OUTDOOR_TOMBS]
[BUILDS_OUTDOOR_FORTIFICATIONS]
===========================================================================================================
[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:JUSTIFIED_IF_GOOD_REASON]
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:JUSTIFIED_IF_NO_REPERCUSSIONS]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:APPALLING]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:SHUN]
[ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:THEFT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[VALUE:LAW:5]
[VALUE:LOYALTY:15]
[VALUE:FAMILY:30]
[VALUE:FRIENDSHIP:30]
[VALUE:POWER:15]
[VALUE:TRUTH:0]
[VALUE:CUNNING:0]
[VALUE:ELOQUENCE:0]
[VALUE:FAIRNESS:15]
[VALUE:DECORUM:0]
[VALUE:TRADITION:0]
[VALUE:ARTWORK:0]
[VALUE:COOPERATION:0]
[VALUE:INDEPENDENCE:5]
[VALUE:STOICISM:30]
[VALUE:INTROSPECTION:0]
[VALUE:SELF_CONTROL:15]
[VALUE:TRANQUILITY:0]
[VALUE:HARMONY:0]
[VALUE:MERRIMENT:15]
[VALUE:CRAFTSMANSHIP:15]
[VALUE:MARTIAL_PROWESS:30]
[VALUE:SKILL:15]
[VALUE:HARD_WORK:5]
[VALUE:SACRIFICE:0]
[VALUE:COMPETITION:0]
[VALUE:PERSEVERENCE:5]
[VALUE:LEISURE_TIME:5]
[VALUE:COMMERCE:15]
[VALUE:ROMANCE:5]
[VALUE:NATURE:0]
[VALUE:PEACE:0]
[WILL_ACCEPT_TRIBUTE]
[VARIABLE_POSITIONS:ALL]
[SITE_VARIABLE_POSITIONS:ALL]
[BUILDS_OUTDOOR_FORTIFICATIONS]
[BUILDS_OUTDOOR_TOMBS]
[BANDITRY:10]
[STONE_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
[STONE_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
[STONE_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
[STONE_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:POINT_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:TABLE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:SINGLE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:ROSE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:BRIOLETTE_CUT_GEM]
[GENERATE_KEYBOARD_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_STRINGED_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_WIND_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_POETIC_FORMS]
[GENERATE_MUSICAL_FORMS]
[GENERATE_DANCE_FORMS]
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Dark Ages III: DF & Skyrim mods + Fantasy Survival Sims 
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I get the intention but it really feels horseshoed into the game, kinda wish i could play the mod without it.

I could use more stylized/original names, or remove them, instead of generic classes like "Fighter." If you never saw a "fighter human child", do you feel it would instantly restore immersion for you?
I mean i dont think it's a simple an issue as that, of course it's still  subjective but i think ham fisting it into the racial system, you get entire villages made of one "class" which really doesn't make sense or feel right, if you want the option for players to be able to get innate powers and such, you should do it through a book system like with necromancy, where you read a book and then gain the ability to use those abilities, would be far more organic and make sense over just picking a race which is just a straight up better version of the original race.

I have considered using the caste system to handle classes, which would make more sense but as I recall that made DF more unstable during world gen. I am considering a complete reboot of this mod, once the Steam version is released. Due to the many changes between then and now, there will be no choice.

The problem now with leaving it only to book learning, is that it doesn't spread enough in world generation. The result would be less than 1% of playable races would ever have access, and you could waste a lot of time chasing down a single skill/power at grave personal risk. Skills that most PC's would know by level three or so automatically in a tabletop RPG.

Having said that, I only recently added class civs back into the mod. I will strongly consider releasing a leaner version of the mod before the Steam release. Until then replace the human code block in the entity_default raw to avoid it (or delete the class/races you don't want to see under [ALL_MAIN_POPS_CONTROLLABLE]):

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[ENTITY:PLAINS]
[INDIV_CONTROLLABLE]
[ALL_MAIN_POPS_CONTROLLABLE]
[CREATURE:HUMAN]
[TRANSLATION:HUMAN]
[DIGGER:ITEM_WEAPON_PICK]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CROSSBOW]
[AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BOLTS]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOW]
[AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PIKE]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_2H]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MAUL]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_GREAT]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_FLAIL]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MORNINGSTAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCIMITAR]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_TRAINING]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT_TRAINING]
[WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR_TRAINING]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_BREASTPLATE:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_MAIL_SHIRT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_LEATHER:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_COAT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SHIRT:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CLOAK:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TOGA:UNCOMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CAPE:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_DRESS:COMMON]
[ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_ROBE:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_CAP:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_HOOD:COMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_TURBAN:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_MASK:RARE]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_VEIL_FACE:RARE]
[HELM:ITEM_HELM_SCARF_HEAD:UNCOMMON]
[GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GAUNTLETS:COMMON]
[GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GLOVES:COMMON]
[GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_MITTENS:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SHOES:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS_LOW:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SANDAL:COMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_CHAUSSE:UNCOMMON]
[SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SOCKS:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_PANTS:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_GREAVES:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LEGGINGS:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LOINCLOTH:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_THONG:UNCOMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_SHORT:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_SKIRT_LONG:COMMON]
[PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_BRAIES:UNCOMMON]
[SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_SHIELD]
[SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]
[SIEGEAMMO:ITEM_SIEGEAMMO_BALLISTA]
[TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_GIANTAXEBLADE]
[TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_ENORMOUSCORKSCREW]
[TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_SPIKEDBALL]
[TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_LARGESERRATEDDISC]
[TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE]
[TOY:ITEM_TOY_PUZZLEBOX]
[TOY:ITEM_TOY_BOAT]
[TOY:ITEM_TOY_HAMMER]
[TOY:ITEM_TOY_AXE]
[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_FLUTE]
[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_TRUMPET]
[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_HARP]
[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_DRUM]
[INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_PICCOLO]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_CAULDRON]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_LADLE]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_BOWL]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_MORTAR]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_PESTLE]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_KNIFE_CARVING]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_KNIFE_BONING]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_KNIFE_SLICING]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_KNIFE_MEAT_CLEAVER]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_FORK_CARVING]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_NEST_BOX]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_JUG]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_LARGE_POT]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_HIVE]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_POUCH]
[TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_WHEELBARROW]
[CLOTHING]
[CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
[CURRENCY:SILVER:5]
[CURRENCY:GOLD:15]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:NAME_WAR]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:VIOLENT]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:VIOLENT]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:NAME_SIEGE]
[SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:VIOLENT]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:ROAD:NAME_ROAD]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:TUNNEL:NAME_TUNNEL]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:BRIDGE:NAME_BRIDGE]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:WALL:NAME_WALL]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:TEMPLE:NAME_BUILDING_TEMPLE]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:LIBRARY:NAME_BUILDING_LIBRARY]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:SUBORDINATE]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:EVIL]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATIVE]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UGLY]
[CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATOR]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:CIV:NAME_ENTITY_KINGDOM]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:SITE:NAME_ENTITY_TOWN_FOUNDER]
[RIVER_PRODUCTS]
[OCEAN_PRODUCTS]
[METAL_PREF]
[GEM_PREF]
[STONE_PREF]
[OUTDOOR_WOOD]
[OUTDOOR_FARMING]
[OUTDOOR_GARDENS]
[USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC_PULL]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC_MOUNT]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC_PET]
[USE_MISC_PROCESSED_WOOD_PRODUCTS]
[EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
[SPHERE_ALIGNMENT:WAR:512]
[ART_FACET_MODIFIER:FANCIFUL:640]
[ART_FACET_MODIFIER:OWN_RACE:512]
[FRIENDLY_COLOR:7:0:1]
[UNDEAD_CANDIDATE]
[DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CITY]
[LIKES_SITE:CITY]
[TOLERATES_SITE:CITY]
[TOLERATES_SITE:TREE_CITY]
[TOLERATES_SITE:CAVE_DETAILED]
[START_BIOME:ANY_GRASSLAND]
[START_BIOME:ANY_SAVANNA]
[START_BIOME:ANY_SHRUBLAND]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_WETLAND:1]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_DESERT:1]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_FOREST:2]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_OCEAN:12]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_LAKE:3]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_GRASSLAND:3]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SAVANNA:2]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SHRUBLAND:2]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:4]
[MERCHANT_NOBILITY]
[DIPLOMAT_BODYGUARDS]
[MERCHANT_BODYGUARDS]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:1]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POP_SIEGE:3]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_PROD_SIEGE:0]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE_SIEGE:0]
[ACTIVE_SEASON:SUMMER]
[SIEGER]
[MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:5]
[MAX_POP_NUMBER:3999]
[MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:120]
[RELIGION:PANTHEON]
[WANDERER]
[BEAST_HUNTER]
[SCOUT]
[MERCENARY]
===========================================================================================================
[SCHOLAR:PHILOSOPHER]
[SCHOLAR:MATHEMATICIAN]
[SCHOLAR:HISTORIAN]
[SCHOLAR:ASTRONOMER]
[SCHOLAR:NATURALIST]
[SCHOLAR:CHEMIST]
[SCHOLAR:GEOGRAPHER]
[SCHOLAR:DOCTOR]
[SCHOLAR:ENGINEER]
===========================================================================================================
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_PARCHMENT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SCROLL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_QUIRE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SHEET_FROM_PLANT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SLURRY_FROM_PLANT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_PLANT_PAPER]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BIND_BOOK]
===========================================================================================================
[PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MASON]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ARMORER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BLACKSMITH]
[PERMITTED_JOB:METALCRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_CUTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_SETTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:STONECRAFTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WEAVER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CLOTHIER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GLASSMAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_DISSECTOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CHEESE_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MILKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SHEARER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SPINNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GELDER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:COOK]
[PERMITTED_JOB:THRESHER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MILLER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:DYER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SOAP_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:POTASH_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:LYE_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WOOD_BURNER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PUMP_OPERATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:CLERK]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ADMINISTRATOR]
[PERMITTED_JOB:TRADER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:ARCHITECT]
[PERMITTED_JOB:DIAGNOSER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_SETTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SUTURER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:SURGEON]
[PERMITTED_JOB:GLAZER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:POTTER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:PRESSER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:BEEKEEPER]
[PERMITTED_JOB:WAX_WORKER]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SOAP_MAKER]
[PERMITTED_BUILDING:SCREW_PRESS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:TAN_A_HIDE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:RENDER_FAT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP_FROM_TALLOW]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_SOAP_FROM_OIL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MILL_SEEDS_NUTS_TO_PASTE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_JUG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_BRICKS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_STATUE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_LARGE_CLAY_POT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_CRAFTS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_JUG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_STATUE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_LARGE_POT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:GLAZE_CRAFT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_OIL]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_OIL_FRUIT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CLAY_HIVE]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PRESS_HONEYCOMB]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_WAX_CRAFTS]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BREW_DRINK_FROM_PLANT]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BREW_DRINK_FROM_PLANT_GROWTH]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_MEAD]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PROCESS_PLANT_TO_BAG]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRASS_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ELECTRUM_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BILLON_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_FINE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_TRIFLE_MAKING2]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:PEWTER_LAY_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:BLACK_BRONZE_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:STERLING_SILVER_MAKING]
[PERMITTED_REACTION:ROSE_GOLD_MAKING]
===========================================================================================================
[WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:TUNNEL]
[WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:BRIDGE]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:ROAD]
    [WORLD_CONSTRUCTION:WALL]
    [BUILDS_OUTDOOR_TOMBS]
[BUILDS_OUTDOOR_FORTIFICATIONS]
===========================================================================================================
[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:JUSTIFIED_IF_GOOD_REASON]
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:JUSTIFIED_IF_NO_REPERCUSSIONS]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:APPALLING]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:SHUN]
[ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:THEFT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[VALUE:LAW:5]
[VALUE:LOYALTY:15]
[VALUE:FAMILY:30]
[VALUE:FRIENDSHIP:30]
[VALUE:POWER:15]
[VALUE:TRUTH:0]
[VALUE:CUNNING:0]
[VALUE:ELOQUENCE:0]
[VALUE:FAIRNESS:15]
[VALUE:DECORUM:0]
[VALUE:TRADITION:0]
[VALUE:ARTWORK:0]
[VALUE:COOPERATION:0]
[VALUE:INDEPENDENCE:5]
[VALUE:STOICISM:30]
[VALUE:INTROSPECTION:0]
[VALUE:SELF_CONTROL:15]
[VALUE:TRANQUILITY:0]
[VALUE:HARMONY:0]
[VALUE:MERRIMENT:15]
[VALUE:CRAFTSMANSHIP:15]
[VALUE:MARTIAL_PROWESS:30]
[VALUE:SKILL:15]
[VALUE:HARD_WORK:5]
[VALUE:SACRIFICE:0]
[VALUE:COMPETITION:0]
[VALUE:PERSEVERENCE:5]
[VALUE:LEISURE_TIME:5]
[VALUE:COMMERCE:15]
[VALUE:ROMANCE:5]
[VALUE:NATURE:0]
[VALUE:PEACE:0]
[WILL_ACCEPT_TRIBUTE]
[VARIABLE_POSITIONS:ALL]
[SITE_VARIABLE_POSITIONS:ALL]
[BUILDS_OUTDOOR_FORTIFICATIONS]
[BUILDS_OUTDOOR_TOMBS]
[BANDITRY:10]
[STONE_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
[STONE_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
[STONE_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
[STONE_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:OVAL_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:ROUND_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:CUSHION_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON]
[GEM_SHAPE:POINT_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:TABLE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:SINGLE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:ROSE_CUT_GEM]
[GEM_SHAPE:BRIOLETTE_CUT_GEM]
[GENERATE_KEYBOARD_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_STRINGED_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_WIND_INSTRUMENTS]
[GENERATE_POETIC_FORMS]
[GENERATE_MUSICAL_FORMS]
[GENERATE_DANCE_FORMS]

Isn't that better if it's rare? it makes getting it a bigger deal rather than just being handed out at character creation. and even if you look at your population chart on the main page, should there really be more legendary dwarves than standard dwarves? seems kinda backwards.
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Fireborn37

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i was using the Phoebus tileset and it does this with every race added by the mod. when playing one of the races in adventure mode it replaces the model with a human
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