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Thisfox

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Raw roasts and cooking observations
« on: October 01, 2014, 11:41:48 pm »

So, some of the mussels that we fish up are raw, and some are just mussels. I've been assuming that our fisherman is getting lazy. Then I saw this:
So... it's possible to roast raw mussels now?
I started just looking through our entire food stockpile. They're all over the place.


(Don't you just love how they always pile the male or female turtles together? Very cute).

So what I'm curious about: Is this just the raw mussels that are doing this, or do we have other raw ingredients going on?

In other observations, I'm really confused by how they're mincing the sausage casings:

I take it that the dwarfs only ever mince food, they don't ever... I don't know... stuff a hen or put their minced sausage inside that fine sausage casing they had there? Seems an odd way to treat all the food.
I'd just assume they all want their food minced, but they have an awfully large number of teeth (I've had to clear a battlefield of dead and live dwarfs teeth once, it took for-ev-er) so I'm surprised this is the case.

I take it a fried peahen drumstick is out of the question? I was hoping for foodpron, or at least food word salad, and got superiorly minced prepared sheep kidney... I'm a bit disappointed.
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 11:45:45 pm »

I'm pretty sure that's a roasted raw mussel, as opposed to a roast mussel that hasn't been roasted yet.

Dwarves will also mince everything, including flour and beer. IIRC Toady said the cooking system is a placeholder for proper food-porn further down the line.
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 01:44:17 am »

Are item names 'available' to dfhack? In that case, someone could write a module to generate names given the ingredient list and quality level. Toss your own food word salad!
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2014, 04:17:00 am »

I'm pretty sure that's a roasted raw mussel, as opposed to a roast mussel that hasn't been roasted yet.

I agree, but... isn't the definition of something that has been Roasted (With the cooking skill no less)... well, isn't the definition of a roasted item one that is cooked? Or... at least... no longer raw?
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2014, 04:18:10 am »

Well, not in DF. Don't ask me why it is, it just is.
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2014, 05:51:04 am »

Isn't "raw" the state before they go through the "fishery" ("clean fish" or whatever?)
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2014, 08:59:07 am »

yeah.  If a fish is cleaned it can be eaten and cooked.   I raw fish can be cooked directly or cleaned, but not eaten.
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2014, 09:22:39 am »

"raw" here doesn't mean that it is uncooked, but rather that it is not cleaned by a fish cleaner.

Raw mussel roast contains sand, shell, and other inedible part of mussel, so the cook has to mince them enough to mix the inedible and edible part together, and make it just barely edible.
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2014, 11:06:28 am »

Heh.  I had one "*  roast" that was made with , , , and .  Not quite sure how I ended up with it, since I'm not sure what it was made out of. :)
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2014, 11:21:43 am »

There are some nameless food items. I've no idea what they're actually supposed to be, but became the proud owner of 'roast' once, too. I keep thinking of dwarfs just throwing something into it that they just won't mention.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2014, 01:54:40 pm »

"Come to think of it, selling it to an elf is probably a good idea. Don't ask."
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2014, 04:15:28 pm »

"raw" here doesn't mean that it is uncooked, but rather that it is not cleaned by a fish cleaner.

Raw mussel roast contains sand, shell, and other inedible part of mussel, so the cook has to mince them enough to mix the inedible and edible part together, and make it just barely edible.
Sooo... That means we have crunchy or smooth mussel roast, depending on whether Urist decided to take the shell off first?
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Re: Raw roasts and cooking observations
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2014, 05:20:29 pm »

There are some nameless food items. I've no idea what they're actually supposed to be, but became the proud owner of 'roast' once, too. I keep thinking of dwarfs just throwing something into it that they just won't mention.

They were probably seeds generated from brewing seedless plants (a known bug).
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