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[Prudent Viper]

I'm thinking about making a similar proposal.
Ahem,
Why Ice Cream Is Superior To A Ferrari
1) You shouldn't eat a Ferrari.
2) Ice Cream is tasty. Vehicles (especially Ferrari's!) do not taste very nice.
3) You can't hold a Ferrari in each hand.
4) Ferrari's only come in one flavour. Ferrari. However, Ice cream comes in hundreds of flavours.
5) Ice cream is very cheap. You can get a cone for less than a pound. However, a 1961 Ferrari GT sold for $10,976,000. You can buy a lot of ice cream for that price.

I'm willing to listen to counter arguments, but for the most part I am convinced that Ice Cream is better than a Ferrari.

[Sizik]

2. Minecraft modding is far more open.
Simply, Minecraft is more moddable. Dwarf Fortress does not have anything even remotely resembling programming. Interactions are turing complete, but as a system it's harder to use than brainfuck and nearly impossible to actually get output that's really meaningful to people. Minecraft uses Java, a fairly popular programming language that you can write whatever in, and it has wonderfully skilled programmers working to make it even easier for you.

This is really only because it's much easier to decompile Java bytecode back into Java (even if it's obfuscated) than it is to decompile machine code back into C++.

[miauw62]

2. Minecraft modding is far more open.
Simply, Minecraft is more moddable. Dwarf Fortress does not have anything even remotely resembling programming. Interactions are turing complete, but as a system it's harder to use than brainfuck and nearly impossible to actually get output that's really meaningful to people. Minecraft uses Java, a fairly popular programming language that you can write whatever in, and it has wonderfully skilled programmers working to make it even easier for you.

This is really only because it's much easier to decompile Java bytecode back into Java (even if it's obfuscated) than it is to decompile machine code back into C++.

This is actually very true. Mojang promised a modding API so many times but they never delivered.

[Illogical_Blox]

The minecraft forums aren't flamewar paradise, as I should know from spending years on them. I can probably count the number of obscenities I have seen on two hands. Also, its biggest market is 15-18 year-olds, NOT children.

Also... Minecraft is pretty dang hard without a tutorial. Not as bad as DF, but still quite hard.

[tonnot98]

So minecraft forums is chaos, we are insanity/madness, 3arc is anger...

I'm thinking of something, but it is lost on me.

[Putnam]

2. Minecraft modding is far more open.
Simply, Minecraft is more moddable. Dwarf Fortress does not have anything even remotely resembling programming. Interactions are turing complete, but as a system it's harder to use than brainfuck and nearly impossible to actually get output that's really meaningful to people. Minecraft uses Java, a fairly popular programming language that you can write whatever in, and it has wonderfully skilled programmers working to make it even easier for you.

This is really only because it's much easier to decompile Java bytecode back into Java (even if it's obfuscated) than it is to decompile machine code back into C++.

I'm very aware of that.

[Uronym]

Comparing Minecraft to Dwarf Fortress is like comparing Kerbal Space Program to Liberal Crime Squad.

It's entirely intentional that Minecraft doesn't have the feeling that Dwarf Fortress has; they are trying to be very different things. Each reason you listed in support of Dwarf Fortress being superior to Minecraft is a reason someone else believes Minecraft is superior to Dwarf Fortress. Some people may even like both, enjoying them for entirely different reasons.

[§k]

I think Slaves to Armok Chapter One has better graphics than Minecraft.

[Putnam]

I think Slaves to Armok Chapter One has better graphics than Minecraft.

no

[martinuzz]

Ever since I've first seen minecraft, I got this image stuck in my head.
Dwarf fortress = Lego (+technics)
Minecraft = Duplo (you know, those extra big blocks for toddlers age 3)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I think I once punched my mom when I was 4, when she dared insult my intellect by giving me a duplo package instead of lego

[Two]

If you like Dwarf Fortress and you like Minecraft then try the Terrafirmacraft mod. That mod has the same basic idea: keep things realistic, and it does it with style. If you imagine you're a Dwarf stranded somewhere, it almost feels like DF Adventure mode, just with better graphics.

And if you want the full challenge, play on highest difficulty and hardcore mode.

[Button]

Ever since I've first seen minecraft, I got this image stuck in my head.
Dwarf fortress = Lego (+technics)
Minecraft = Duplo (you know, those extra big blocks for toddlers age 3)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I think I once punched my mom when I was 4, when she dared insult my intellect by giving me a duplo package instead of lego

I preferred Duplo because I was making houses for my dinosaurs. You need a lot more legos to make dinosaur houses than you need Duplos.

...then I installed electric lighting >>

[Kingbodz]

The minecraft forums aren't flamewar paradise, as I should know from spending years on them. I can probably count the number of obscenities I have seen on two hands. Also, its biggest market is 15-18 year-olds, NOT children.

Also... Minecraft is pretty dang hard without a tutorial. Not as bad as DF, but still quite hard.

When it first came out in alpha/beta it was marketed to 15-18 year olds. Now after youtubers like the Yogscast and Sparkle its for kids. Also if you can't find a minecraft tutorial you are probably too dumb to use the internet because there are millions.

[Orange Wizard]

He didn't say it was hard to find a tutorial. He said the game is hard without a tutorial.

Also, are we watching the same Yogscast? Because if I had kids I sure as hell wouldn't let them watch that.

[Kingbodz]

He didn't say it was hard to find a tutorial. He said the game is hard without a tutorial.

Also, are we watching the same Yogscast? Because if I had kids I sure as hell wouldn't let them watch that.

I'm sorry to say this but the Yogs largest audience is kids aged 10-15 these days. I know this because I'm in a school that is both high and middleschool and the 6th, 7th, and 8th graders all rage at me when I mention someone better than them.