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[thegamemaster1234]

Spoiler: Old idea (click to show/hide)

The goal is simple: to create an awesome legendary warrior born from the beginning of time to slay all evil in his path. Legends will be told of him in the ages to come, and all will remember the hundreds of monsters he has slain.

I'm not entirely sure if this exact kind of thing has been done before; I tried looking it up and the closest one I could find was "The Luckiest Tourist EVER" and that's only because it was a succession of a single adventurer. Here, it's one guy, no retiring, no fortresses during the adventurer's lifetime.

[[Alternate start
We start the game off in fortress mode with the intent to create the perfect band of warriors, carrying only the best of weapons and armor, ready to destroy the horrors that rule this world. Then we retire the fortress as a site, and have our team go, slaughtering all evil in their way in the name of Armok.

This would require some slight changes to the rules and the introduction of new ones.]]

After we agree that he's run his course we can find a suitable fate for him, then maybe start a succession fort with him/her as our idol.

Rules:

• To fit the theme, no companions are allowed to get the killing blow on monsters. Since you likely won't be taking them into any fights, it's probably best to tell them to wait where they are while you go tackle the beast; otherwise, I wonder what dragons think roasted dwarf tastes like.
• It is highly encouraged for players to post logs about their current megabeast hunting adventure. Hilarious or otherwise awesome methods of victory are encouraged. Nightmares (see below) should still be logged.
• Player turns will last one week (if you think that's too long you can suggest shorter turn maximums) or until the killing of a megabeast/semimegabeast/night creature. Accidental adventurer deaths or unrecoverable maimings will be counted as "nightmares" and that player can still try again until his/her week is up or until a monster has been slain.
• After a player's turn is over, go to a town (or some kind of safe place, as towns are scarce), save the game, and post it here. Nightmare games shouldn't be posted; instead, revert to the game save right before you embarked on the quest for a megabeast. That way, players will still gain the skills from the various mucking about training you probably did. It also makes you feel less worthless for accidentally "killing" him.
• If DFHack is used, it cannot be used for anything other than fixing FPS issues, graphical enhancements, or general utility. No body swapping.

The world I am thinking of is one made up mostly of not necessarily evil biomes but wild ones. Megabeasts and semi-megabeasts should be higher than normal to give our adventurer more stuff to kill. The year at the end of world gen should be really low, somewhere between 2 and 20, or however long it takes for people to develop metal armor. Or we could install that adventure mode crafting mod and make our own metal armor.

Another discussion at hand is what our adventurer should be. Mod use suggestions i.e. Masterwork as well as suggestions about skills or attributes are encouraged.

Don't like the rules? Suggest that too, but be specific about it and suggest possible changes. A problem for me, for instance, is that the new conversations system in 0.40.xx makes the already laggy Adventure Mode even more so to the point of unplayability (over 1 second to move 1 tile, and gets even worse in densely populated areas). Playing in 0.34.11 is therefore a possibility, if only to allow peeps with not-so-great computers to play effectively.

So, anyone up for it? This is my first community game, I have yet to participate in any, and I'm rather new to the forums.
I just thought this idea would be really cool and decided, "heck, why not post it here?"

New idea (as originally proposed by Timeless Bob):

Spoiler: Fortress Phase (click to show/hide)

 To obtain an Heirloom, there must first be a creator; thus there will first be a fortress mode succession game dedicated to the creation of the Heirloom.

The Heirloom must be a weapon of suitable material and either artifact or named masterwork quality. After that, as long as the Heirloom remains obtainable, anything can happen!

Player turns (as per general tradition) last either one IRL week or one in-game year, whichever ends up taking the shortest. Players may end their turns early or forfeit their turn to the next player in line. Don't leave the fort as unplayable or destroyed unless the Heirloom has been created and is still accessible from adventurer mode. Don't forget to leave logs and screenshots of the current progress!

If a player ends his/her turn early and submits the save of an incomplete year, the next player is allowed to complete that year before completing his/her actual year.

Spoiler: Adventurer Phase (click to show/hide)

There is a weapon, one known to be superior above all others, that while it must slay all evil it must not be let into evil's hands; as many a hero fall, this weapon must be reclaimed by other adventurers to carry on its purpose.

Players must reclaim the weapon from either where it was last left or dropped by the previous adventurer. Yes, please try to get a good picture of where you died so people can find it again! If you get killed by dragonfire, well TOO BAD, the next guy has to go pick it up anyway! And the next guy! And the guy after that!

After reclaiming the heirloom weapon, go about killing as many monsters or named beasts as you can, but once obtaining the heirloom, no significant kills may be made with any other weapon so as to swell its kill list as much as possible! This also means your companions shouldn't be getting any special kills, either, so watch them!

If your adventurer has not yet died by the deadline of a few days, your adventurer feels that it is time for another to take up the pilgrimage - place the weapon somewhere safe, inform the players ahead of its location, and retire as a peasant. If the weapon wasn't obtained, retire anyway. Players may not use another player's adventurer, but players who get multiple turns and have a retired adventurer may bring him/her out of retirement for his/her turn.

Additional rules:
- Don't willingly become a night creature. In case you do become one, drop the weapon on the spot; it is blessed by Armok, and its touch burns your skin through your gloves/gauntlets. Having failed your pilgrimage, you give in to the forces of darkness, waiting to one day be found by a later adventurer wielding the same blade, ready to end your terrible curse and existence on this earth. Feel free to find a suitable lair for yourself first before retiring, if you wish!
- Post logs about your adventures; we want to hear everything!
- If, somehow, the Heirloom is lost forever (hopefully never happens) a new Heirloom must be created. This queues up another fortress mode game.

Here is a DFFD link to the world we will be using:
DFFD link

Spoiler: Picture of the world (click to show/hide)

Current game status:
I tried to start my turn, but the new features in 0.40 were too much for my FPS and I was forced to give up my turn.
Anyone who wants to pick it up need only download it and start posting!

[Ambidextrous]

PTW

[Taupe]

I'M  too clueless to run any form of adventure game, but I like the idea. PTW.

[Timeless Bob]

Thank you for the mention of the 'Tourist' game.  It certainly was a fun one.  However, perhaps a small change to your focus could make the game a bit different - have the focus be on a legendary heirloom weapon, whose kill list will be lengthened adventurer by adventurer as each in their turn picks it up to further its glory.  Important part here - each new adventurer must first go and claim the weapon from where it was placed or fell - whole sets of turns might be expeditions to reclaim the dread blade (or whatever) from the lair of whatever creature had slain its last bearer...

[thegamemaster1234]

Thank you for the mention of the 'Tourist' game.  It certainly was a fun one.  However, perhaps a small change to your focus could make the game a bit different - have the focus be on a legendary heirloom weapon, whose kill list will be lengthened adventurer by adventurer as each in their turn picks it up to further its glory.  Important part here - each new adventurer must first go and claim the weapon from where it was placed or fell - whole sets of turns might be expeditions to reclaim the dread blade (or whatever) from the lair of whatever creature had slain its last bearer...

Wow, that sounds great, Timeless Bob! That should certainly make things more interesting. Maybe the first task should be to collect the legendary blade from the fallen fortress that created it? Just retiring the fort wouldn't be enough fun.

What should be a suitable legendary weapon? I'm thinking that any artifact or named masterwork weapon made of a suitable weapon material would be good.

EDIT: Just remembered from The Museum game that artifacts seem to have glitches where they must stay in a container or risk having it get warped back to the fort it was retrieved from? Or have it disappear upon abandoning the fort? Was this fixed in the latest version or does the weapon have to be an unnamed, non-artifact item?

[Timeless Bob]

Artifacts no longer warp.  That glitch is fixed.  Also, once a PC becomes a night creature, they also might just become a target for that very same weapon as well, which is another good reason not to become one.  A Monster-bane weapon... what status!

[Deus Asmoth]

It might be interesting if a night creature adventurer was allowed to keep the weapon and the next one had to kill them and take it, but I guess that'd require a lot of grinding before you could even get the thing from their cold dead hands.

[thegamemaster1234]

It might be interesting if a night creature adventurer was allowed to keep the weapon and the next one had to kill them and take it, but I guess that'd require a lot of grinding before you could even get the thing from their cold dead hands.

Or you could get lucky with throwing (unless that was nerfed?). I think it's just a bit more thematic to have the no night creature restriction, and helps prevent adventurers from becoming overpowered and killing too many things.

Also, Timeless Bob: About the night creature thing, do you mean that becoming a night creature while in possession of the weapon will make that specific character a target by future adventurers? You know, maybe I will repeal that rule, but it could become confusing since that character will likely wander around the map, so you'd have to ask locals if they know anything about that character... which they might not. Then you have generations of characters just searching for the night creature that stole their beloved... Actually, now that I think about it, that's pretty dang awesome. Changing the rule so that while players still have to join the forces of the night, they get to keep the weapon. I just hope this happens sometime!

EDIT: realized that Timeless Bob actually meant that an adventurer wielding the weapon would target the PC that became a night creature by means of monster hunting. Maybe I'll change the rule back; on second thought, having periods not knowing where the weapon was could cause mass confusion and annoyance. Slaying a night creature with the weapon he was originally trying to serve, though: that's awesome.

...I suggest that the Heirloom be made of silver, just for this purpose.

[thegamemaster1234]

I want to get this underway now, so I'm going to need some players on the turn list. I'll be taking the first year of the fortress phase.

I generated a medium region world from advanced world gen, and stopped it on the year 100 due to history lag. The world is called Róth Nitem, "The Domain of Vision."

Behold, Róth Nitem!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm using 0.40.14, and while 0.40.15 is now out with a bunch of bugfixes I doubt it'll matter later on; saves should be perfectly compatible after I'm done with my turn.

Before I actually embark on a site though, I would like to know what YOU would want to have our future adventurers travel through!
Should it be an easy trek through the plains, or will they have to endure a haunted area filled with the bodies of the risen dead? Those adventurers will be coming for the Heirloom, and it's your decision how hard it is to get there!

If anyone wants to check the world out before the game starts, here it is:
DFFD link

[Timeless Bob]

It might be interesting if a night creature adventurer was allowed to keep the weapon and the next one had to kill them and take it, but I guess that'd require a lot of grinding before you could even get the thing from their cold dead hands.

Or you could get lucky with throwing (unless that was nerfed?). I think it's just a bit more thematic to have the no night creature restriction, and helps prevent adventurers from becoming overpowered and killing too many things.

Also, Timeless Bob: About the night creature thing, do you mean that becoming a night creature while in possession of the weapon will make that specific character a target by future adventurers? You know, maybe I will repeal that rule, but it could become confusing since that character will likely wander around the map, so you'd have to ask locals if they know anything about that character... which they might not. Then you have generations of characters just searching for the night creature that stole their beloved... Actually, now that I think about it, that's pretty dang awesome. Changing the rule so that while players still have to join the forces of the night, they get to keep the weapon. I just hope this happens sometime!

EDIT: realized that Timeless Bob actually meant that an adventurer wielding the weapon would target the PC that became a night creature by means of monster hunting. Maybe I'll change the rule back; on second thought, having periods not knowing where the weapon was could cause mass confusion and annoyance. Slaying a night creature with the weapon he was originally trying to serve, though: that's awesome.

...I suggest that the Heirloom be made of silver, just for this purpose.

Actually, you had the right of it at first glance - night creatures spawn quests against them, ergo, they become targets for Heirloom-bearers.  Should it be my game, I'd stipulate that once an adventurer becomes a night creature, that they must drop the monster-bane weapon ASAP.  (The weapon has a mind of its own and actively seeks to destroy all "monsters", much like the malice contained in Sauron's ring from the Tolkien books.)  However, it's not my game, I'm merely suggesting possible directions for it.  That you have decided to try out one of mine is immensely flattering.


It might be better to place the first embark in a place difficult to get to but not impossible - I suggest making a random dwarven adventurer and whichever place he/she lands, that's where you place the site. (Or near enough to be adjacent to it.)  That would encourage the first Heirloom-bearers to be dwarven, but the weapon may be claimed later by heroes of other races, as its fame (and access to it) increases in other civs.

[thegamemaster1234]

It might be better to place the first embark in a place difficult to get to but not impossible - I suggest making a random dwarven adventurer and whichever place he/she lands, that's where you place the site. (Or near enough to be adjacent to it.)  That would encourage the first Heirloom-bearers to be dwarven, but the weapon may be claimed later by heroes of other races, as its fame (and access to it) increases in other civs.

So you mean to make the embark near a dwarven civ to allow accessibility to initial dwarven adventurers, but in a place difficult enough that it's no cakewalk? On it!

I'm a little confused about if you want night creatures immediately ending their game after dropping the weapon, though. However, in terms of thematics, my reasoning for the night creature dropping the weapon is that it is a holy artifact that repels evil through Armok's holy blessing. Killing monsters is, in a way, therefore a form of pilgrimage to Armok and a proof of faith. And I did change the rule back to dropping the Heirloom.

EDIT: What's your sense of "difficulty" in terms of embark area --> adventure mode exploration? There's plenty of good spots near dwarf civs but I'm not sure which I should choose. Currently, what I'm thinking of is a site near a civ called The Honest Glaze, although it's rather widespread, so if you're unlucky you may have to travel from one end of the civ to the other (but there's another dwarven civ, The Polished Wall, that is closer if this happens repeatedly). It's near a tower, has a "Wilderness" savagery rating, a river, plenty of trees, shallow metal, deep metal, and flux stone. There are also some slopes, but no cliffs. Here's a picture of the spot:

Spoiler: embark pic (click to show/hide)

[Timeless Bob]

That's a good spot, and you can make it more difficult by excavating a smoothed labyrinth filled with lever/bridge puzzles for adventurers to solve when they actually get to your fortress in the first place, if you like.  Supports can be linked to levers to collapse too, which is usually what I put in my labyrinth puzzle prizes.  Red herrings in the form of extra levers or pressure plates that open/close a one-time use floodgate for instance, are also fun to mess around with, (so long as you have a pump system to empty the labyrinth again once its filled, because otherwise all your clever planning is a one-use affair, which can be a bit of a let-down.)

For me, the night creature adventurers would drop the heirloom weapon then go find/take over a suitable place to retire as their "lair".  Sewers or catacombs in cities seem to be popular, or the lair of a night creature, a necromancer's tower or even a goblin civ could all be useful places.  Once they turn into a night creature, they're no longer considered heroes, but rather nemesis to be vanquished by heroes. 

[thegamemaster1234]

Overseer's Log

We reach our destination on the 15th of Granite in the year 100; we have arrived at Udarvabôk, "Rainyorb."
Oddly, the mountainhomes forbade the use of iron anvils, and a steel one costs three times as much; we'll have to make do.
Our crew of seven are skilled in various things, yet the price of a steel anvil reduced my funds towards a more experienced group.
Litast Nêcikcatten: farmer, brewer, butcher, tanner
Ingish Thadathel: miner, mason
Èzum Rigòthstâkud: lumberjack, carpenter
Melbil Ilromkûbuk: lumberjack, axedwarf
Ral Libashèrith: mechanic, furnace operator
Ingish Endokkêshshak: fisherdwarf
Ùshrir Sákrithendok: miner, stone crafter

Our equipment has suffered a similar fate; fortunately, our area has plenty of trees, so we were able to dump all of the wooden stuff.

Spoiler: Embark supplies (click to show/hide)

Now, let's look at where we landed, eh?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

We had better get a good fortress going before the necromancers attack, it's been rumored that there's an evil tower nearby.

EDIT: The snow melted the day after. However, I will not be able to continue this; 0.40.14 is just too dang slow for it to be played effectively. I'll try .15 to see if it's any different, but if not, I'll just post the save here for the next person to use instead.

[thegamemaster1234]

Sorry, but my computer is just not good enough to handle the new features of 0.40. I now have to abandon the game in the hopes that someone else will pick it up, as I can't play it myself. 

Here's a DFFD link to the current save. I started mining out a small base, feel free to do what you want with it.
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10051