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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Current Idea
Protagonist
-To be decided-

Setting
-To be decided-

Stuff to Implement
As good of a stealth mechanic as I can implement
As good of a reaction mechanic as I can implement
Open world to allow for an ability to choose your path

Spoiler: Currently Shelved (click to show/hide)

Current Idea
Protagonist
A manufactured mechanical dragon late prototype, at the beginning of the game, having been sent out for field testing.

Setting
Either Steampunk or Cyberpunk city.

Stuff I hope to implement
Free flight
Usage of compressed steam or plasma as a ranged attack.
Weapons are able to be changed to different types that are better in some aspects, but are weaker in others.
Psuedo-randomly generated levels if I make it 2d.  Open world spanning a few city levels, with tunnels in the plates between levels if I can make it 3d.
A lawful <-> anarchist, selfless <-> self-centered set of morality meters.


Before I start work, anyone have a recommendation for a free python or java engine (either 2d or 3d) that is free, and I wouldn't get in any trouble with if I ever wound up getting a crazy hair an try to sell this for some reason?

[inEQUALITY]

Not sure about an engine, per se, but two libraries you can check out for python are libtcod - for roguelikes only, mostly - and pygame. They're both fairly well documented and have plenty of useful features, depending on what you need.

Also, the concept interests me. I'll be watching to see how it progresses.

[Nirur Torir]

It's not quite what you wanted, but have you checked out the Unity engine? It has a free license, which I'm pretty sure allows sales, and works for 2D or 3D. The three languages it likes are C#, Javascript, or Boo, which is pretty similar to Python.

[Orange Wizard]

PTW.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

It's not quite what you wanted, but have you checked out the Unity engine?

Wow.  What does Pro add for that price?!  Gonna use the free version, but, what does that add?

[Nirur Torir]

Better lighting and graphic tools, support for run-time animation IK rig effects (like walking on uneven rocks), no Unity splash screen on game start-up, a few other things, but mostly, the free license isn't available for entities that have made over 100,000 USD in the last fiscal year.

[Moghjubar]

Is this the same project from http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=127161.0   or a different one?

As for engines, Unity may be the way to go (though you can likely find a simpler one if you have the same complaints as before, especially if you are just using 2d stuff, but you'd need to do some searching / asking on game dev forums for specifics).  No matter what you pick though, you have to stick with it and commit to learning and (more importantly) doing if you want to get it done.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Is this the same project from http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=127161.0   or a different one?

Different one.  That one I had been thinking about creating a randomly generated 3d world with destructable terrain and a procedural history, vast interactions possible with civilizations, and various other things.  Pretty much, I was thinking too big and trying to do too much.

As for engines, Unity may be the way to go (though you can likely find a simpler one if you have the same complaints as before, especially if you are just using 2d stuff, but you'd need to do some searching / asking on game dev forums for specifics).  No matter what you pick though, you have to stick with it and commit to learning and (more importantly) doing if you want to get it done.

Probably going to go with the 3d plan.

Better lighting and graphic tools, support for run-time animation IK rig effects (like walking on uneven rocks), no Unity splash screen on game start-up, a few other things...

So, this means that when I reach the end and want to make everything as polished as possible, I'm gonna take the Pro's 30 day trial and binge the thing to make it look as good as possible.

[Orange Wizard]

Panda3D uses Python and is kinda good, apparently. It's also free.

[EagleV]

I got some pretty neat results using JMonkey for a 3d solar system thingy, not sure how good it is at complex meshes though.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

So I've hit a brick wall.  I can't come up with a narrative.  This could be a problem...

[Neonivek]

So I've hit a brick wall.  I can't come up with a narrative.  This could be a problem...

Ok start with this: Why would this world need a mechanical dragon with a conscience? Heck did they give it a conscience and if they didn't do it intentionally why did it happen?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Ok start with this: Why would this world need a mechanical dragon with a conscience? Heck did they give it a conscience and if they didn't do it intentionally why did it happen?

Within games, many people will destroy as much as they possibly can, just because.  I don't think conscience (an inner feeling or voice viewed as acting as a guide to the rightness or wrongness of one's behavior) is an issue.

Unless you meant conscious (aware of and responding to one's surroundings; awake), in which case, the AI was designed to learn, in order for it to effectively approach targets.

[Loam]

I believe they mean conscience in terms of the "selfless/self-centered" scale you mentioned. Though I guess that doesn't actually bear on the PC at all, it's just a guideline for the player.

the AI was designed to learn, in order for it to effectively approach targets.

So it's a military robot? Who made it, and why? Is there a war (who against who)? Did the gov't build it, or some private party? Can/does it rebel against its creators? Why? And why is it a dragon - obviously meta-game rule of cool, but in-game? Is the dragon maybe a symbol of the group that created it, and this robot is supposed to be indicative of their might?
Just some questions to get started on. They're mostly backstory, but that's what the plot has to build on.

[Moghjubar]

Blah, narrative. Game and gameplay first, figure out what would be fun to play.